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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:37, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

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The X-Fools edit

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Created by Coin945 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:38, 6 July 2017 (UTC).

  • Review summary: Hook needs to be modified, citation issues should be addressed, and QPQ still needed. -Thibbs (talk) 20:06, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
  • New (article): Shifted to mainspace at 15:34, 6 July 2017, nominated at 15:39, 6 July 2017. 5 minutes old. checkY
  • Long enough (article): 3420 prose characters. checkY
  • Within policy (article): Some issues with the citations (WP:V leg of "within policy"). Nothing major, but (1) Citations 1 and 2 are in fact identical and should be merged; (2) Citation #13 ("X-Fools Abduct This") should list the source website's name just as citations 8-12 currently do. ClockC
  • ''Update Done both.--Coin945 (talk) 05:37, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Copyright (i.e. "close paraphrasing"): The only thing Earwig's Copyvio Detector hit on was the following passage from the article: "The game centres around two hyper-paranoid ex-FBI agents named Mully and Scudder, who invite the player to be recruited as an "agent trainee". As such, the player is "subjected to a deprogramming regimen" consisting of a series of games, quizzes, and skits." which was found to be similar to this sentence from the Business Wire article entitled "Newest Parody..." (citation #3): "The X-Fools spoofs The X-Files by introducing two ultra-paranoid ex-FBI agents, Mully and Scudder, who invite the user to become an "agent trainee" and be subjected to a deprogramming regimen of interactive games, trivia and multimedia vignettes." Considering that this is the only thing that Earwig's tool found, the close paraphrasing is overall minor. Maybe try to restructure this a little more or, perhaps better yet, insert attribution into the prose at the point where you are quoting the source (i.e. at "subjected to a deprogramming regimen"). Question?
  • 'Update I rephrased the passage.--Coin945 (talk) 05:25, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Format (hook): Concise (122/200 characters). Properly formatted. checkY
  • Content (hook): Neutral, stable, real-world, etc. checkY
  • Cited (hook): The citation does not mention the Microsoft Windows parody. This should be fixed either with a new hook or simply by removing the reference to Microshaft Winblows 98. ✗
  • Update: Replaced source with one that references all four games.--Coin945 (talk) 05:28, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
  • QPQ: Not yet completed. ClockC
  • Re-review summary: Looks good. Thanks for making those changes. -Thibbs (talk) 13:20, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
  • @Coin945: I was considering promoting this, but if you want people to click on your article, you need to have a hook which clearly indicates which article it relates to, and this hook does not. I suggest you don't hide the link in a piped list of links as at present, but put it near the beginning of the hook. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:47, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
I see your point @Cwmhiraeth:. Please review ALT1 and ALT 2? :)--Coin945 (talk) 07:02, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
I think ALT2 is much better than the original and will garner more views. Perhaps @Thibbs: would be able to give it a tick. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:21, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
I agree that ALT2 is superior and I'm glad you brought it up, Cwmhiraeth. From the perspective of the reader I think a hook like ALT2 is likely to be more appealing to those who would be interested in the specific subject matter (i.e. The X-Fools) rather than in just parody titles in general, and I agree that the WP:EASTEREGG nature of the original hook seems problematic despite the fact that there are no specific rules I could find against this.
The only thing that gives me any pause about ALT2 is that it doesn't 100% comply with Eligibility Criterion #3b: "Each fact in the hook must be supported ... by at least one inline citation to a reliable source" (emphasis added). The basic fact that the game was released in anticipation of the X-Files premier is covered by two reliable sources (one from Business Wire an the other as a SPS from the developer's website), but the fact that the premier is the premier of the fifth season isn't stated anywhere. The date of the premier (mentioned in the SPS) does match the date of the season five premier, however, so the logical leap is trivial. Per WP:BLUE I think we can consider Eligibility Criterion #3b to be satisfied.
ALT2 is good to go. -Thibbs (talk) 13:12, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. I have struck the other two hooks. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:22, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
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