Template:Did you know nominations/The Princess Saves Herself In This One
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:03, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
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The Princess Saves Herself In This One
edit... that a book of poetry exists that focuses on the empowerment of women through fairy tale ideals?"Princess Saves Herself In This One' By Amanda Lovelace"
Created by Jisbell2 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:14, 10 December 2018 (UTC).
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- Neutral: - no
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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- Cited: - no
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Overall: The article does not appear in the hook? Hook not adwquately cited. Also contradictory information (is it 2016 or 2017?) and some NPOV ("very heavy"). No QPQ. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GiantSnowman (talk • contribs) 19:29, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- GiantSnowman, this editor is editing through a college course and has no prior DYK experience. In cases like this we generally try to help them as they are not only new to DYK but also to Wikipedia generally. Also, as they are new (with no prior DYKs), there is no QPQ requirement. Best, Mifter Public (talk) 05:20, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- Also, it looks like the user recieved some feedback from their course instructor/Wiki Ed about the nom. Mifter Public (talk) 06:15, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Mifter Public: good spot on QPQ, I've amended accordingly. GiantSnowman 08:21, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- I took the liberty to pipe, - not that I like that, but we need a link to the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:01, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Mifter Public: good spot on QPQ, I've amended accordingly. GiantSnowman 08:21, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- Also, it looks like the user recieved some feedback from their course instructor/Wiki Ed about the nom. Mifter Public (talk) 06:15, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- ALT1:
...that in The Princess Saves Herself In This One, the female archetype of "the princess" is transformed in a "modern, feminist, empowered way" in a story of child abuse and survival?source - User:GiantSnowman, User:Gerda Arendt, Mifter Public, I'm working on this a bit to try and get it in shape for the front page. I've proposed an alternate hook and am making copyedits. Please bear with me; I obviously have a bit more work to do and appreciate y'all's comments here and whatever you can do in the article. GS, I will ping you again when I think the article is more ready than it is now. (I'll add that I didn't see the entirety of the article when the DYK nomination was made, and I would have held back on it, but it is what it is, and I'm sure we can make it work.) Thanks again, Dr Aaij (talk) 15:42, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- Not a review but it might be quite fun just to just go with ALT2: ... that The Princess Saves Herself In This One?- Dumelow (talk) 19:36, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
- I honestly kind of like that one. It's short and eye catching. What say you, Dr Aaij? Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:45, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Not a review but it might be quite fun just to just go with ALT2: ... that The Princess Saves Herself In This One?- Dumelow (talk) 19:36, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Dr Aaij: Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:46, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- New reviewer needed to check the two ALT hooks, and whether there has been sufficient copyediting or the article still needs more work to be suitable for the main page. There's been no response in over three weeks; at this point, given the age of the nomination, we need to move forward. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:45, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- One of your, perchance...? I don't think we'll be seeing them again; I assume they got their grade some weeks ago :) ——SerialNumber54129 18:29, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- Just realised, this can be my QPQ :) ——SerialNumber54129 18:29, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- Shalor (Wiki Ed), User:Serial Number 54129, BlueMoonset, sorry I'm late to this party--Dumelow's hook is fine with me. I'm about to have a look at the article. Yes, I know at the time it needed a lot of work--in fact, I didn't want the student to submit it for DYK... Dr Aaij (talk) 16:27, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- All sorted now, never mind. Agree re. Dumelow's hook—it's great! ——SerialNumber54129 16:39, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- lovely ALT2. If that was my article, I'd give it an infobox, and avoid a sentence such as "The style is heavily criticized for its simplicity in the subjects." But good enough for DYK. - Btw, I had a similar sentence on the German DYK on Christmas Day, simply "Fröhlich soll mein Herze springen." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:43, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- All sorted now, never mind. Agree re. Dumelow's hook—it's great! ——SerialNumber54129 16:39, 15 February 2019 (UTC)