- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:03, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
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Taro Yoko edit
- ... that video game director and scenario writer Taro Yoko uses a writing method he calls "backwards scriptwriting", where he builds the narrative starting with the ending?
- ALT1 ... and that video game director Taro Yoko uses a method he calls "photo thinking" to visualize and manage story events?
Created by ProtoDrake (talk). Self nominated at 07:58, 26 July 2014 (UTC).
New (25th), long enough, neutral, no copyvio found via spot check, no QPQ necessary. One hold-up: the hook needs a ref right immediately following the fact in the article (see 3b). (Also, in general, all direct quotations need immediate refs per minref.) Let me know if you need a hand, and welcome to DYK! czar ♔ 17:10, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- I've fixed the issue, added a reference from the article that cites both story-writing methods detailed during his GDC seminar. And the direct quotes are from him, I think, as all the articles on the seminar use it. Also fixed a grammar error. --ProtoDrake (talk) 17:35, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant that the sentences (within the article) associated with the hook needed direct cites. E.g., after 'in other works of fiction, is "backwards scriptwriting".' (DYK hooks don't need their own footnotes.) And with WP:MINREF, all instances of a direct quotation within the article need a footnote to immediately follow the sentence. czar ♔ 18:26, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- I tried again. I also removed the quotes, as they didn't seem appropriate given a second look. I realize that I probably got it wrong. If I did, please explain exactly what I have to do and give an article as example that I can learn from. --ProtoDrake (talk) 20:42, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- You got it—looks good. I think the quotes were appropriate because it was a direct phrase of his (and not a common one, at that). I'd put them back. Is that "gloating" quote from the video? I didn't see it in the cited source. Anyway, it should have a direct citation for being a direct quote. Is there a reason for using Yoko instead of Yokoo? The article uses title the former but the text uses the latter. Also since you have some room in the hooks, might be worth expanding on what "backwards scriptwriting" and "photo thinking" actually are—otherwise it looks like jargon to a lay reader. I'll leave that last part up to you. czar ♔ 00:58, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Done the direct quote referencing (the quote is from his own words in the video interview, but since there's scenes of violence, I need to use a secondary source so the video isn't blocked to unregistered users, like me). And don't blame me for the change. Someone else did that. "Taro Yoko" is the most common rendition of his name, if not the most accurate to the original Japanese. If necessary, I can move it or something, but I thought the most common rendition was the one to use, as it's the one he's most commonly called by in articles and such. --ProtoDrake (talk) 07:47, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Hooks check out, gtg. I prefer the main hook as the second is more ambiguous (as per its reference). (Re: Yoko/Yokoo, it's fine as long as it's consistent.) Good work czar ♔ 13:23, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Done the direct quote referencing (the quote is from his own words in the video interview, but since there's scenes of violence, I need to use a secondary source so the video isn't blocked to unregistered users, like me). And don't blame me for the change. Someone else did that. "Taro Yoko" is the most common rendition of his name, if not the most accurate to the original Japanese. If necessary, I can move it or something, but I thought the most common rendition was the one to use, as it's the one he's most commonly called by in articles and such. --ProtoDrake (talk) 07:47, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- You got it—looks good. I think the quotes were appropriate because it was a direct phrase of his (and not a common one, at that). I'd put them back. Is that "gloating" quote from the video? I didn't see it in the cited source. Anyway, it should have a direct citation for being a direct quote. Is there a reason for using Yoko instead of Yokoo? The article uses title the former but the text uses the latter. Also since you have some room in the hooks, might be worth expanding on what "backwards scriptwriting" and "photo thinking" actually are—otherwise it looks like jargon to a lay reader. I'll leave that last part up to you. czar ♔ 00:58, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- I tried again. I also removed the quotes, as they didn't seem appropriate given a second look. I realize that I probably got it wrong. If I did, please explain exactly what I have to do and give an article as example that I can learn from. --ProtoDrake (talk) 20:42, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant that the sentences (within the article) associated with the hook needed direct cites. E.g., after 'in other works of fiction, is "backwards scriptwriting".' (DYK hooks don't need their own footnotes.) And with WP:MINREF, all instances of a direct quotation within the article need a footnote to immediately follow the sentence. czar ♔ 18:26, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
