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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 13:54, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
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Swen Swanson
edit- ... that Swedish aircraft designer Swen Swanson built his first airplane when he was 17 years old?
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Created/expanded by Dr.K. (talk). Self nominated at 09:25, 3 January 2014 (UTC).
New article, length OK, very well sourced. Hook is interesting and a good length. My query: two citations support the hook fact, although they both say he designed the aircraft when he was 17, not that he built it. The building is certainly implicit in one of the two citations, which also describes the aircraft as "home-built", but it doesn't explicitly say the building was done by him. It may be that this is fine, but I wonder whether perhaps the hook could be amended to read:
- Alt 1: ... that Swedish aircraft designer Swen Swanson designed his first home-built airplane when he was 17 years old? This would more accurately reflect the wording of the source.
- This is my first DYK review; someone more experienced should check it, please. - Karenjc (talk) 22:06, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- I agree with your point and I accept ALT1. I will also modify the text in the article. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 22:18, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- I amended the article per your suggestion. Thank you very much Karenjc for your advice and for taking the time to review this. Best regards. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 22:22, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
I think this is good to go now. However, I have noted that DYK rules state new articles incorporating text from existing articles must be expanded 5x. A couple of lines in the sections summarising each plane are copies or close paraphrases of lines from the individual plane articles. I don't think there's anything like sufficient crossover for this to be a problem because the article is still over 1500 characters excluding the lines in question. However, bearing in mind that this is my first DYK review, a second opinion would be a good idea. Thanks. - Karenjc (talk) 16:48, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
- The airplane articles from which I imported the text were all created by myself within the past week or so, so the paraphrasing is no problem because the original text was mine to begin with. But as you mentioned most of the material is new and even excluding the imported text the size of the article is well over the 1500 character minimum. I personally don't think there is any problem but I can always strip completely the crossover airplane descriptions from the article and add them after DYK. And to be more exact, the only importation of some of my text came from my new article Fahlin SF-2 Plymocoupe which preexisted this article by 5 days. Even if I completely remove the text of SF-1, and the Fahlin SF-2 Plymocoupe sections the article still has 3,483 characters of original text created by myself. The text from my other article Swanson Coupe developed at almost the same time as this article because both articles were created within 28 hours of each other and some of the information was valid for both. This is, strictly speaking, no importation but co-development of these two articles but even if we exclude any text from the Swanson Coupe there still remain 3,314 characters of completely original text, still well over the 1,500 DYK limit. Finally all text about all the other airplane models has not been imported from the pre-existing older articles but it was created by myself over the past few days and is based exclusively on my new references and my new text. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 06:26, 5 January 2014 (UTC)