Template:Did you know nominations/Sahoyúé-§ehdacho

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The result was: promoted by Baldy Bill (sharpen the razor|see my reflection) 01:08, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Sahoyúé-§ehdacho edit

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... that Sahoyúé-§ehdacho is both the largest National Historic Site of Canada (approximately the same size as Prince Edward Island) and the first one designated and acquired on the basis of consultation with Aboriginal peoples?

Created by Skeezix1000 (talk). Self nominated at 13:12, 15 October 2013 (UTC).

ALT1: ... that Sahoyúé-§ehdacho is both the largest National Historic Site of Canada and the first one acquired and designated on the basis of consultation with Aboriginal peoples?

Long enough, new enough, pic ok, well-cited. Some comments:

The double-barrelled hook is too cumbersome. I suggest sticking to one with either of these:

ALT2: ... that Sahoyúé-§ehdacho is the largest National Historic Site of Canada at almost the size of the province of Prince Edward Island?
ALT3: ... that Sahoyúé-§ehdacho is the first National Historic Site of Canada designated on the basis of consultation with Aboriginal peoples?

Sahoyúé-§ehdacho is in an unfamiliar language. It would be nice to mention which language this is to aid the confused reader, though I don't think this concern alone is enough to keep it from the main page. -Oreo Priest ^talk 03:21, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Good point. That hadn't even occurred to me. I've added the information about the language and the meaning of the name. I would lean towards ALT2. For ALT3, the sources say that it is the first site acquired and designated in consultation with Aboriginals, but not the sources are not clear that it is the first site simply designated in consultation with Aboriginals. I've clarified the text of the article. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 12:48, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

ALT4: ... that Sahoyúé-§ehdacho is a cultural landscape in the Northwest Territories that means "big point belonging to the bear" in the Slavey language?
ALT5: ... that Sahoyúé-§ehdacho is a cultural landscape of the Sahtu people in the Northwest Territories?
ALT6: ... that Sahoyúé-§ehdacho is the first cultural landscape in Northern Canada commemorated by the Government of Canada?
ALT7: ... that Sahoyúé-§ehdacho is a cultural landscape in the Northwest Territories comprising two peninsulas in Great Bear Lake?
ALT8: ... that Sahoyúé-§ehdacho is a National Historic Site of Canada that has archaeological resources related to pre-contact occupation from over 5000 years ago?

I've added a few alternate hooks. I prefer ALT4 and ALT7; ALT8 is interesting but too wordy, and ALT5 and ALT6 are perhaps not sufficiently attention-grabbing. Each is short enough to be a hook, and I've ensured that the claims are sourced in the article. Mind matrix 14:50, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

ALT9: ... that Sahoyúé-§ehdacho is a National Historic Site of Canada with archaeological resources from over 5000 years ago?

I like ALT4 too, but I am not sure it is correct - I think one peninsula is called "belongs to the bear" while the other peninsula is the big point (I will confirm and clarify in the article). I took a crack at shortening ALT8, as ALT9 above. I think ALT2, ALT6 and ALT9 are the most attention grabbing, but I think all of the proposed hooks are good and thanks so much to both of you. Skeezix1000 (talk) 15:16, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

My mistake - I merged the two meanings for ALT4. Adjusted in ALT10, based on your edits in the article. Mind matrix 03:18, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

ALT10: ... that Sahoyúé-§ehdacho consists of two peninsulas in the Northwest Territories whose names mean "belonging to the bear" and "big point" in the Slavey language?

Need someone to review and identify which hooks are valid and which are not; this confusion from the hook proliferation seems to be preventing the article's promotion. It would probably be better to get someone either than either of the earlier reviewers, both of whom have suggested hooks of their own, because they wouldn't be able to review their own hooks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:25, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

I find ALT2 the most interesting hook among the 10 alternatives, and I've verified it with inline sources in the text. Good to go. -Zanhe (talk) 22:50, 13 November 2013 (UTC)