Template:Did you know nominations/Ruy Diaz Melgarejo

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The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 08:37, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Ruy Diaz Melgarejo edit

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... that the successful expeditions of Spanish Captain Ruy Diaz Melgarejo in the late 1500s led to his being nicknamed the "Invincible Captain"?

Reviewed: Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Mike_Pegues

Created/expanded by Livitup (talk). Self nom at 20:40, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Note: I nominated this on the 14th, but forgot to update the main template page, so it's been languishing without anyone noticing it for 5 days now. If someone could take a look, I'd appreciate it! Livit⇑^Eh?/_What? 16:01, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Date, content and length are satisfactory. References are not online but the hook reference is accepted in good faith. Some of the meanings of sentences are unclear. For example, could you clarify this sentence:- "De Abreu was recognized as Governor, but was forced to flee with de Abreu when he ordered Mendoza's death." Who fled and who organised Mendoza's death? Could you also please clarify the penultimate sentence in the last paragraph. It is not clear to me from the article that Melgarejo was a "captain" (is this a military or a naval rank?) and what does "make additional expeditions" mean? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:31, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

OK, check it now. I cleaned up some of the prose in the sections you suggested. I also capitalized "Invincible Captain", as it was capitalized in the source. Livit⇑^Eh?/_What? 18:02, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

The article is appropriately sourced, the 5x expansion is validated, and I did not see evidence of too-close wording or paraphrasing. The hook fact is supported by the source. This was hard to write because the main source (Appleton's) sometimes is incoherent. The creator has done a fine job of making sense of the source and rewriting the content.

I'm troubled by the fact that the article (and source) have some major inconsistencies with the Spanish Wikipedia version of this article -- and with some Spanish language sources that I've been able to get pidgin-English machine translations for. Candidly, I don't believe everything in the Appleton's biography. If we put this up on DYK, maybe the article will get some needed help. So I'm giving it a tick, but reluctantly! --Orlady (talk) 06:30, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I don't know any Spanish at all and it's hard to find sources on 500 year old explorers. I had quite a time interpreting Appletons; sometimes it seemed to contradict itself. :) I'd be happy to see additional resources brought in to improve the article; I just couldn't find any more that 1) I had free access to and 2) were in English. Livit⇑^Eh?/_What? 07:02, 31 December 2011 (UTC)