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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 20:29, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

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Rattlesnake Creek (Bronx), Seton Falls Park

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  • ... that a waterfall along Rattlesnake Creek in Seton Falls Park was created as part of the country estate of the Seton family in what is now New York City? Source: Loeb, Robert E. (1989). "The Ecological History of an Urban Park". Forest & Conservation History. Oxford University Press (OUP). 33 (3): 138.
    • ALT1:... that the only remaining above-ground section of New York City's Rattlesnake Creek is in Seton Falls Park, where a man-made waterfall is a remnant of a former mill? Source: Kadinsky, Sergey (2016). Hidden Waters of New York City: A History and Guide to 101 Forgotten Lakes, Ponds, Creeks, and Streams in the Five Boroughs. Countryman Press. p. 72.

Created by RoySmith (talk) and Epicgenius (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 19:13, 17 June 2020 (UTC).

  • "Rattlesnake Creek was named after the abundant rattlesnakes that" should be reworded. QPQs not done. ALT0 isn't that interesting, ALT1 is better but perhaps should say "only remaining above-ground" section. CMD (talk) 10:00, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
  • @Chipmunkdavis: Thanks, I have done a QPQ now. Do you have any suggestions on rewording the sentence? epicgenius (talk) 13:51, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
"There was once a large rattlesnake population in the area [or in the northeast Bronx], after which the creek was named." would fit in the current paragraph structure. CMD (talk) 14:26, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
ALT1, as the more interesting hook. CMD (talk) 17:29, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote ALT1, but I find the hook wording confusing with "remaining" and "remnant" in the same sentence; not sure which is a remnant of which. Perhaps splitting it into two hooks would yield better hook wording. Yoninah (talk) 15:33, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: How about this? If it doesn't work, I can propose two separate hooks, one for each article (the R- and S-numbered hooks). epicgenius (talk) 16:53, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
    • ALT2:... that the only remaining above-ground section of New York City's Rattlesnake Creek is in Seton Falls Park, where a man-made waterfall is a vestige of a former mill?
    • ALTR1:... that New York City's Rattlesnake Creek flowed past a country estate, a beer garden, and an amusement park?
    • ALTR2:... that New York City's Rattlesnake Creek was named after the rattlesnakes that once populated the Bronx? - promoted SL93 (talk) 03:06, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
    • ALTS1:... that Seton Falls Park went from being one of New York City's best parks to one of its worst in two years?
    • ALTS2:... that Seton Falls Park was used unofficially as a New York City park since the early 20th century, but did not officially become parkland until 1930?
  • @Epicgenius: I think your single-article hooks are going to fare better on the main page than the double ones. ALTR2 sounds scary enough and ALTS1 is also hooky. Both hooks are verified and cited inline. Rest of review per CMD. Good to go on separate days.
  • Note to promoter: Please keep this template open until both hooks are promoted. Thank you. Yoninah (talk) 20:44, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
  • ALTR2 has been promoted. Here is the approval tick for ALTS1. Yoninah (talk) 11:16, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
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