- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:04, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
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Ralph Mellanby
... that Ralph Mellanby was the executive producer of Hockey Night in Canada from 1966 to 1995 and hired personalities including Ron MacLean, Don Cherry, Dave Hodge and Howie Meeker?Source: Wedge, Philip (Pip) (September 2007). "Ralph Mellanby (1934-)". Canadian Communications Foundation. Retrieved November 12, 2019. and Henderson, Paul (2012). How Hockey Explains Canada: The Sport That Defines a Country. Triumph Books. ISBN 1633190854.
Created/expanded by Connormah (talk). Self-nominated at 22:10, 14 November 2019 (UTC).
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
- Interesting:
- A tad too long
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: I would recommend keeping only one of the two facts mentioned in the hook.
- ALT1:
... that Ralph Mellanby was the executive producer of Hockey Night in Canada from 1966 to 1995? - ALT2:
... that as executive producer of Hockey Night in Canada, Ralph Mellanby hired personalities including Ron MacLean, Don Cherry, Dave Hodge and Howie Meeker?feminist (talk) 07:31, 20 November 2019 (UTC)- @Feminist: - ALT2 looks good to me! Thank you for the review. --Connormah (talk) 20:57, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
New reviewer needed to review my proposed hooks. feminist (talk) 03:11, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- I think the first hook should read 1985, not 1995. If you don't know any of the names, this just says that and executive producer of a sports show hired some people (are they sportscasters?). The fact that a hockey broadcaster's son was a hockey player and his daughter a sports broadcaster is maybe a bit catchy if you don't know the people... This is a hard one to write hooks for. HLHJ (talk) 07:13, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
I agree with the above comments that a long list of names is not too interesting as a hook, unless you are familiar with those names. The proposed hook would likely appeal only to Canadians or Americans. I strongly suggest wording hooks based on his work with the Olympics, which is a worldwide event with broad appeal. I suggest working with the innovations at the 1988 Olympic Games such as the new ways to mount cameras and microphones. Also, in the Macleans article it mentions that the television team outnumbers the athletes, that quote is catchy, should be mentioned in this article and could be used as a hook. Flibirigit (talk) 19:27, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
- I think the first hook should read 1985, not 1995. If you don't know any of the names, this just says that and executive producer of a sports show hired some people (are they sportscasters?). The fact that a hockey broadcaster's son was a hockey player and his daughter a sports broadcaster is maybe a bit catchy if you don't know the people... This is a hard one to write hooks for. HLHJ (talk) 07:13, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Feminist: - ALT2 looks good to me! Thank you for the review. --Connormah (talk) 20:57, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that Canadian broadcaster Ralph Mellanby received an Emmy Award for his coverage of the Olympic Miracle on Ice telecast in 1980? Irvin, Dick. "1999 Ralph Mellanby". Sports Media Canada. Retrieved November 12, 2019. --evrik (talk) 20:49, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
New hook to review. @Flibirigit, Connormah, Feminist, and HLHJ: --evrik (talk) 20:49, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- I cannot review hooks since I have worked on the article. Flibirigit (talk) 20:55, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
ALT3 is good and verified to the source provided. feminist (talk) 16:24, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
- I agree with Flibirigit that more colorful details work better than "Sports broadcaster wins award". Here is a suggestion:
- ALT4: ... that Ralph Mellanby's production of the 1988 Winter Olympics for CTV used "the world's longest television lens" for the ski jumping events? Yoninah (talk) 01:06, 17 December 2019 (UTC)