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The result was: promoted by Desertarun (talk) 13:48, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Pieces of a Woman, Kata Wéber

  • Reviewed: 500 Queer Scientists
  • Comment: Pieces of a Woman GA, Kata Wéber new. 2nd QPQ is Archie, Marry Me. Alts 3 and 7 (about languages) might be too implicit in the articles, but there is mention in sources used in Wéber's article so these could be stated explicitly if needed. If a reviewer doesn't like the hooks, I can propose separate ones :)

Improved to Good Article status by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 16:48, 21 May 2021 (UTC).

Both articles:

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - See below.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Kingsif: Nice work. ALT0, ALT1, ALT3, and ALT6 are most interesting to me. However, ALT3 and ALT6 are only cited or even mentioned in one article (Pieces of a Woman). ALT0 and ALT1 have the most potential. I was wondering if you would like to combine any of the above hooks, as per WP:DYKSG rule C3, you only need to count the shortest bold link as part of the hook length (so I counted Weber's name but not the play's name). Epicgenius (talk) 16:59, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: Yes, I didn't think it would be DUE to include so many details of Pieces of a Woman at Wéber's article, I don't mind if that excludes some hooks, though - if you like some of the hooks that aren't mentioned at Wéber, we could remove Wéber as a boldlink and propose separate hooks? You mention combining hooks and perhaps ALT0, 1 and 2, which refer to Wéber's husband/deciding to write, could be combined? ALT0a: "... that Kata Wéber moved to Berlin to write the play that would become Pieces of a Woman, avoiding her husband, though he had encouraged her to write it after finding her "too personal" notes?" - though I don't know if it would be hookier to keep it short and sweet. Whatever hook you like works :) Kingsif (talk) 19:35, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
@Kingsif: I completely understand why you didn't want to add the excessive details in ALT3/6 to Weber's page. These are fine with me, as long as they are mentioned in at least one article. ALT0a might work - I would suggest replacing "though he had" with "who had", and I'd just describe them as personal notes without the quotes. Epicgenius (talk) 20:03, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Like ALT0b: ... that Kata Wéber moved to Berlin to write the play that would become Pieces of a Woman, avoiding her husband, who had encouraged her to write it after finding her personal notes? Kingsif (talk) 20:43, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, ALT0b looks good to me. Epicgenius (talk) 21:14, 26 May 2021 (UTC)