- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:30, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
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Orange One edit
... that, in an emergency, President Donald Trump may have access to a mountain fortress called Orange One?ALT1:... that the Orange One may have access to a bunker called Orange One?- ALT2: ... that a mountain fortress called Orange One was built for use by the President of the United States in emergency situations?
- Reviewed: Jim Ambrose
- Comment: I'm not 100% certain that the Alt1 is NPOV so will defer to the discretion of the reviewer and promoter.
Created by DarjeelingTea (talk). Self-nominated at 06:36, 6 March 2017 (UTC).
- @DarjeelingTea: While I agree that ALT1 is funny and quirky I don't think that would go over well, so I will look at ALT0. Looking at the article it looks incomplete, nothing past the 1970s - the hook even reflects that by saying "may have access", but it may also have been abandoned in the 40 years since the last information in the article. I'm on the fence if this passes Supplementary rule D7 "that is to appear on the front page should appear to be complete ".
- Long enough, new enough at the time of nomination. QPQ provided and looks to be okay. No copyright violation. Article is generally well sourced, but the article does not specifically say "Trump may have access" nor source that, I can see the logic of the article stating "this is for the president in case of an emergency" and the fact that he's the current president, but from a DYK rule standpoint I am not sure about it.
I am putting this on hold, my concerns are with completeness and the content of the hook being nowhere in the article. I may bring this up on the Talk page to get a second opinion, if you can address these issues that'd go a long way towards passing it. MPJ-DK 01:09, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
- No problem, MPJ-DK, I think your concerns are valid. Unfortunately, there is no further information available so I won't be able to update the article further and I completely understand if you need to fail it. DarjeelingTea (talk) 01:15, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
- @DarjeelingTea: it was pointed out that more recent information is probably still classified, so it contains all available information. I wonder if you can find a different hook though? Perhaps there is something to be found in either the pool being built or only be revealed through the Watergate scandal? If a different hook is suggested I believe we can still get a hook out of this. MPJ-DK 01:30, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
- Drive-by Comment, just thought I'd suggest after seeing this that if there is a source that President Trump has been called "Orange One", then maybe ALT1 could work as an April Fools Day hook? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 10:12, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
- MPJ-DK sorry for my delayed reply. I'm perfectly happy with the alternate hook BU Rob13 recommended in the discussion thread, or, CoE's suggestion, above. Whichever you feel is better! DarjeelingTea (talk) 19:14, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
- @DarjeelingTea: I copied over ALT2 from the talk page, since I did not suggest it I can review that one. The hook is in the article, cited too and does not present any "personal attack" issues found in ALT1
- MPJ-DK sorry for my delayed reply. I'm perfectly happy with the alternate hook BU Rob13 recommended in the discussion thread, or, CoE's suggestion, above. Whichever you feel is better! DarjeelingTea (talk) 19:14, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
@DarjeelingTea and MPJ-DK: Is Orange One by any chance the same place as Raven Rock Mountain Complex? If you look on Google Maps, Camp David and Raven Rock Mountain Complex are in close proximity to each other. — Maile (talk) 14:02, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
- Maile66 that's a good question, but, no, Site R is a separate, albeit nearby, location. (The first reference in the article [1] provides an open source confirmation by referring to both.) DarjeelingTea (talk) 19:22, 7 March 2017 (UTC)