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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:26, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

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Nature's Fynd

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Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 12:51, 15 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment (I was going to randomly review it but before that, a major issue surfaced). I'd like to discuss whether this company passes WP:NCOMPANY first on talk (given the creator is an established editor, I know this is not a spam advert... but I am sorry, to me, it looks like one). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:49, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @TonyTheTiger: Tony, I appreciate you being a good sport and you did invest a lot of time into this article, but I have reread the expanded version and I am seriously concerned this fails WP:NCOMPANY/GNG. I will therefore ask for 2nd opinion in the most relevant place, which is AfD. As a compensation, I promise that if the AfD closes as keep, I'll finish my review here and frankly if it s notable per community I am sure it will be passed as a DYK, as my sole concern is that this company may not be notable. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:02, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
While I personally still think this fails NCOMPANY, the AFD showed no consensus for deletion. As promised, I will finish the review (am, did, whatever), and the article meets all DYK requirements (stable, new, long, no copyvio, etc.). The hook is neutral. All that is needed is a QPQ review. Ping User:TonyTheTiger. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:38, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this, but I'm having trouble finding the hook fact, that it hopes will serve the microbial manufacturing needs for NASA, cited in the article. Could you point it out to me please? Yoninah (talk) 18:17, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Actually, TonyTheTiger, this nomination has been waiting for you to answer Yoninah's request to point out (or add) a citation for the hook fact she quoted, which doesn't appear to be in the article even after your edits last week. Since I could have missed it, can you please point to it here on this nomination page? Or, if it isn't there yet, can you please add the necessary cite and then point to it here? The ball is in your court. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:17, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you. I would stop the hook after "NASA". But the article doesn't say that its meat substitute will serve NASA's space travel needs; it says it is developing a bioreactor for NASA. And that whole sentence in the lead: including microbial manufacturing needs as well as other space travel uses for NASA is still not sourced. Yoninah (talk) 10:52, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
  • @TonyTheTiger: but the second-to-last sentence is not about NASA. Only the last sentence is about NASA and is sourced. Meanwhile, your ALT3 hook reads like a sea of blue. Better to put the company name first. Yoninah (talk) 20:25, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
  • @TonyTheTiger: I don't understand why you're asking me if something is sourced in your article. The source given for its work with NASA only talks about a bioreactor. It does not talk about either microbial manufacturing needs or space travel. Please find another source, or delete that from the lead. Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 11:49, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
  • The fact that the article that sources the bioreactor is not a satisfactory source for microbial manufacturing does not mean microbial manufacturing is not sourced. Microbial manufacturing is in the main body in a different sentence sourced by a different ref.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:04, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  • @TonyTheTiger: So? The only sentence that mentions NASA and is sourced is The company is working with NASA to develop a bioreactor that will employ the Fy microbe in space travel. You cannot say that a different fact about microbial needs that is sourced but has nothing to do with NASA is applicable here.
  • Let me suggest a shorter, less blue-linked alt:
  • ALT2a: ... that Nature's Fynd, producer of microbe-based meat substitutes, is working with NASA to develop a bioreactor for use in space travel? Yoninah (talk) 21:53, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you. Since I added the bioreactor fact, we need another editor to check ALT2a. Pinging Kingsif and evrik for help here. Yoninah (talk) 13:36, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Approving Alt2a per earlier review. --evrik (talk) 15:32, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
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