Template:Did you know nominations/Muhammad VI of Granada
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:11, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
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Muhammad VI of Granada
- ... that Sultan Muhammad VI of Granada was personally killed by King Peter of Castile?
Source: "lo mató de una lanzada el propio rey Pedro I, a [...] 27 de abril de 1362, dos semanas después de que el Emir huido saliera de Granada Vidal Castro: Muhammad VI- ALT1:... that after throwing himself at the mercy of King Peter of Castile, Sultan Muhammad VI of Granada was killed by the Castilian king himself?
Source: the killing part is as above. the throwing at mercy part: "Muhammad VI fled and sought asylum with Pedro I in Seville on [...] 13 March 1362." Fernández-Puertas, p. 18 or "Why Muhammad VI decided to place himself in the power of Peter I in this way is difficult to understand. ...." (Harvey 1992, p. 213)
- ALT1:... that after throwing himself at the mercy of King Peter of Castile, Sultan Muhammad VI of Granada was killed by the Castilian king himself?
- Reviewed: Rolling straight-edge
5x expanded by HaEr48 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:50, 26 July 2020 (UTC).
Excellent article, as usual, well written and referenced. A few comments, though: first, the reference "Vidal Castro: Ismail II." does not point anywhere, nor does it seem to have been included in the reference section. Second, for DYK purposes, the 5x expansion in "readable prose" is there, but per the rules, the reused content from Ismail II of Granada does not count towards that expansion, so the article barely fails the expansion target. Personally, some rewriting of the text and/or some additions would be enough to satisfy the criterion. Third, in ALT1, there may be some confusion to the average reader who exactly the "Castilian king" was. I suggest amending to "... that after throwing himself at the mercy of King Peter of Castile, Sultan Muhammad VI of Granada was killed by the Castilian king himself?" or similar. Likewise, in ALT0 I would suggest adding their titles, "Sultan" for Muhammad and "King" for Peter. Constantine ✍ 21:56, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you Cplakidas for the review. I have added the missing references for Vidal Castro: Ismail II, and added "King" and "Sultan" to the hook. Good point about discounting the reused content per the rule, I forgot about that. I'd like to clarify how it is calculated. As far as I remember, only the content in #Rise to power is copied (with some adjustment) from Ismail II. (I wish I had remembered to not join them in the same edit as new content, but you can compare the two articles to confirm this). Anyway, let's say the whole section is discounted, that means we substract 2124 characters of prose. The original prose size before I expanded it was 1391 characters, and now it is at 9311. 9311 - 2124 = 7187 is still more than 1391 * 5 = 6955 (just barely! I swear it's not intentional). But my calculation might be wrong, and I might be able to find some extra content somewhere, if I know what the target is. HaEr48 (talk) 22:27, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- @HaEr48: Hmmm, it appears you are correct, for some reason I miscounted the expansion, and anyway it is a technicality. Very well then, I am satisfied as to the 5x expansion criterion. Any comments on ALT1? Constantine ✍ 22:35, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Cplakidas: Oops, sorry I missed that. Sure, I updated ALT1 as suggested. HaEr48 (talk) 22:55, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- Great. Since QPQ is done, I declare this
good to go. Constantine ✍ 06:36, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Great. Since QPQ is done, I declare this