Template:Did you know nominations/Mont Sainte-Victoire and the Viaduct of the Arc River Valley

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The result was: rejected by ⇒T A P 08:02, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Withdrawn ⇒T A P 08:02, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Mont Sainte-Victoire and the Viaduct of the Arc River Valley edit

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... that when Paul Cézanne painted the Mont Sainte-Victoire and the Viaduct of the Arc River Valley, his aim was "to make of Impressionism something solid and durable, like the art of museums"?

ALT1:... that the Mont Sainte-Victoire and the Viaduct of the Arc River Valley, a painting by Paul Cézanne has the landscape of Aix-en-Provence, his native city dominating the painting?
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Created/expanded by Thine Antique Pen (talk). Self nom at 12:08, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Comment: The article meats requirements for newness and length. I verified citations for the hooks, however, the formatting of citations sees problematic for this article. I cleaned up the citation for the second hook (the title had been omitted), the first hook looks like it is a web citation, but no URL is given (many sources can be found for the quote used in the first hook, so verification itself is not an issue). Generally citations seem a little problematic. There are book refs without page numbers, web refs without URLs, and book refs with "access dates." Might be worth some citation clean up before this goes on DYK.--Bkwillwm (talk) 22:47, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh, forgot to mention there seems to a glaring error: The painting is said to be displayed at the Met in Washington, DC. The Met is in New York City, and it looks like that is where this painting is.--Bkwillwm (talk) 22:51, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

The location error has been fixed by Yngvadottir. I've removed the "retrieved" dates where no URL is present - these are not necessary. I've also clarified the text to deal with one of the queries Yngvadottir raised. DYK doesn't require page numbers for offline sources.

Note, the article creator is away for several more days. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:02, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

The article contains at least one contradiction: whether it's a late-period work or "21 years before the end of his painting career". These are both referenced to the same book and I cannot see the relevant passage in Google Books. There were a couple of misinterpretations of sources that I was able to sort out online, but that one requires the author or someone else to track it down, hence my asking for a page number. A quotation of the relevant bit would do as well, but that should be clarified. I've therefore replaced your good-faith change of the sentence at the end with something closer to what the passage said before, pending determination of whether it or the earlier sentence needs to change. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:23, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Isn't it pretty obvious what it's intended to mean? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:50, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Sadly no, because the same book is cited in support of both statements, and the material about the other Montagne Sainte-Victoire paintings was introduced by me to provide context (and links to pre-existing articles including a stub on the motif in Cézanne's work). I searched around for someone reporting the same info and couldn't track it down. One of them is probably another misunderstanding of the sources, but I'd a lot rather wait till Thine Antique Pen gets back and can look it up (or someone else can get hold of the book) than arbitrarily choose which one to change. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:29, 17 July 2012 (UTC)