- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:10, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
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Lydia May Ames edit
- ... that Lydia May Ames has been considered as one of Cleveland's first women artists, and also its first impressionist painter? Source: Both claims found at Encyclopedia of Cleveland History
- Reviewed: Stanwood, Washington
Created by 78.26 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:54, 6 August 2018 (UTC).
New enough and (barely) long enough (not counting the exhibition section as it is a list rather than prose). QPQ done. The article is appropriately sourced, and Earwig found no copyvio. The hook is only mildly interesting, though; would it be possible to find something quirkier or otherwise more attention-catching? More seriously, all hook claims need to be in the article, with a reference for that sentence; the citation given in the nomination does source all of the hook claims, but the claim that she was "one of Cleveland's first women artists" is stated only much more vaguely in the article, "a pioneering female artist from Cleveland". Pioneering could mean innovative rather than early, and "from Cleveland" could mean something other than that she practiced in Cleveland, so this is not the same as the hook claim. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:52, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Lydia May Ames has been considered as one of Cleveland's earliest women artists, and also its first impressionist painter? Source: Both claims found at Encyclopedia of Cleveland History
- ALT2 that Lydia May Ames focused on anatomy?source: Weidman "...lecturer on art history and anatomy"
- @David Eppstein: Your comments are well taken, thank you. I've changed both the article and introduced ALT1 to address the "pioneering" issue. Regarding quirky, that's even more difficult, the sources are rather dry. Since sex sells, I've proposed ALT2. Regarding "from Cleveland", she is both from there, and practiced there. It is what the sources say, so I'm a little unclear regarding your meaning, sorry. Thanks for the review, any further ideas/criticism is always welcome. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 21:07, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Ok, good to go with ALT1 now that the article addresses it. Thanks for trying with ALT2 but my feeling is it's too unrelated to what she's notable for. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:11, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein: Your comments are well taken, thank you. I've changed both the article and introduced ALT1 to address the "pioneering" issue. Regarding quirky, that's even more difficult, the sources are rather dry. Since sex sells, I've proposed ALT2. Regarding "from Cleveland", she is both from there, and practiced there. It is what the sources say, so I'm a little unclear regarding your meaning, sorry. Thanks for the review, any further ideas/criticism is always welcome. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 21:07, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
