- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:07, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
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Liza Ferschtman
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Ferschtman in concert, 2004
... that Liza Ferschtman (pictured in concert) played all Beethoven violin sonatas?Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- Reviewed: 1000 Second Avenue
- Comment: I will add to the article and hook, but may not get to it today
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk) and Meneerke bloem (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 12:16, 23 February 2017 (UTC).
New enough, long enough. The first paragraph in Chamber music needs a cite, including the sentence supporting the hook. I'm a bit put off by how much cite 1 is used throughout the text. It's a clearly promotional cite from a site associated with one of her performances. Could some of this information be cited to more neutral sources to ensure a neutral article? AGF on close paraphrasing due to foreign language sources. Hook is fine, but needs the cite as mentioned above. QPQ completed. Waiting on verifiability/neutrality. ~ Rob13Talk 02:47, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
- I promised to add to article and hook, hope be able today or tomorrow, - sorry that so far I couldn't do much yet, when I translated, there was no source. Take me as an unreliable source that she is notable, I heard it/her ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:20, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
- I added more about her recordings, with reviews, and the concert I heard. More to come, need sleep. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:11, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
- I tried to find a reference for the first paragraph on chamber music, but wasn't successful. It's translated from NL, it's probably true. Should we drop it until after DYK?
- ALT1: ... that Liza Ferschtman (pictured in concert), recipient of the Nederlandse Muziekprijs in 2006, played Alban Berg's Violin Concerto "To the memory of an angel" in 2017? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:56, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: Very sorry for the delay, I never noticed this one on my watchlist. Thanks to Northamerica1000 for poking me back in this direction. That paragraph without a cite is still an issue, as you noted. If we can't find any citation for it, I'd take it out entirely, not just until DYK. WP:V and all. As an aside, I'm also not a fan of the "They played here, and here, and here, and here" sentence, as those always come across as promotional. The ALT1 hook is cited, short enough, and interesting, so that's good to go once the cite issue is fixed. ~ Rob13Talk 16:08, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
- I'd poke you myself if there was a rush, but I am busy elsewhere ;) - I hate those lists of halls, and would like to improve, but have a few other ladies and their work, due for tomorrow. - I don't think I will manage a work per conductor, as I did for the orchestra with which she played the angelic concerto, but it should be better than what we have. Calling Drmies once more, if there's more in Dutch sources. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:15, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
- Rob, I found this and a few others in Dutch which I presented to Drmies before adding. I added a Concertgebouw info about one of the Beethoven duo concerts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:27, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: Very sorry for the delay, I never noticed this one on my watchlist. Thanks to Northamerica1000 for poking me back in this direction. That paragraph without a cite is still an issue, as you noted. If we can't find any citation for it, I'd take it out entirely, not just until DYK. WP:V and all. As an aside, I'm also not a fan of the "They played here, and here, and here, and here" sentence, as those always come across as promotional. The ALT1 hook is cited, short enough, and interesting, so that's good to go once the cite issue is fixed. ~ Rob13Talk 16:08, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
