Template:Did you know nominations/List of accolades received by Bajirao Mastani

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The result was: rejected by Allen3 talk 08:59, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
Insufficient recent expansion

List of accolades received by Bajirao Mastani

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Created by Ssven2 (talk). Nominated by FrB.TG (talk) at 07:09, 30 March 2016 (UTC).

  • New enough, QPQ review performed, all ¶ have inline citations, copyvio checks reveals no problems.
Discrepancies in article: one issue is that in the article it states that the film received 14 nominations at the 61st Filmfare Awards, but the sources used in the article do not verify this as such. This source states that the film received 8 nominations, and this source does not state how many nominations occurred, only listing how many awards were won.
Not long enough: A significant amount of text was copied from Bajirao Mastani into this article (see Duplication Detector results), which does not count as new text. Per A5 of the DYK supplementary rules, "new text seven days old or less can only count toward the 1500 character minimum in one article; if it is duplicated in other nominated new articles, it is ignored for the purpose of character count. If some of the text in a nominated article was copied from another Wikipedia article, and the copied text is more than seven days old, then the copied text must be expanded fivefold as if the copied text had been a separate article." When subtracting the characters of the copied text from the present 2071 character count in the article, it is presently not long enough. North America1000 20:24, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
The reason that the list states that it was nominated for 14 awards is that each award is believed to be a nomination. However, some awards are announced without prior nominations, six of them being among those. I don't think they really need to state how many awards were won as they are pretty obvious from the table and the source in the table. As for copy-paste, I will try to rephrase the first paragraph. ツ FrB.TG (talk) 13:21, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
Update: I was to do some tweaking but another user beat me to that. Have a look now. ツ FrB.TG (talk) 17:12, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Even with the tweaking, this clearly is not a 5x expansion of the remaining identical material. Further, the copying done at the creation of the article needs to be properly attributed per WP:Copying within Wikipedia—at the very least, a "copied" template is required on the article's talk page. As for the nominations vs. actual awards, if I'm reading this correctly there were eight advance nominations, of which the film won two, and six previously unmentioned awards that the film won. I think it's a stretch to claim fourteen nominations, especially if the new six were simply announced, rather than announced after reading a group of also previously unannounced candidates. The hook could still fly if no other film received eight or more nominations, or you could try a new hook about most awards with eight, though only two of eight nominations received awards; the seeming discrepancy could attract the curious. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:47, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Although newly created, it was created using a significant amount of material taken from (or effectively copied from) the article on the movie. That duplicated material, per DYK rules, must be expanded five times, and it hasn't been. Marking for closure. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:30, 11 May 2016 (UTC)