Template:Did you know nominations/Lalchand Fulamali
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by Vanamonde (talk) 06:33, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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Lalchand Fulamali edit
... that West Bengal state legislator Lalchand Fulamali had studied up to 4th grade and been arrested at multiple times?
Created by Soman (talk). Self-nominated at 11:13, 1 January 2017 (UTC).
(Not a full review) A QPQ review appears to be needed before this can move forward. North America1000 10:25, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
Full review needed now that QPQ has been submitted. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:14, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
- - Length is a tad too short (1495b), QPQ checks, Cite is to a google books book without a preview so that would have to be AGF, Date is fine, as is Earwigs. However, I am also concerned about the hook in general. It doesn't really flow that well and is slightly disjointed as the arrest record and educational attainment do not appear to be linked. I've proposed an alt below that may work better. Mifter (talk) 00:27, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- ALT1:
... that Lalchand Fulamali was a member of the West Bengal Legislative Assembly representing the Communist Party of India from 1971 to 1977?
- I've just struck the original hook; this is a BLP, so it's best to use a hook that doesn't mention his arrest record when it isn't necessary to do so. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:36, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
- Being that I proposed ALT1 we need another reviewer to take a look. Mifter (talk) 01:48, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
This article was new enough when submitted and is long enough. Approving ALT1 but not the original hook. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:17, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I came by to promote this article, but the hook is not hooky at all. Usually you can make a hook out of some personal fact – in this case, the fact that he only completed fourth grade is very hooky. Yoninah (talk) 21:10, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
- I agree that the hook is uninspiring but as a BLP, I thought that both his lack of education and his arrests were frowned on for use in the hook. This nomination has been hanging around for ages and really needs to move forward. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:55, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
- I only mentioned the arrests above; the 4th-grade education is certainly one possibility. Looking at the article just now, however, one thing that struck me was that although he won a majority of the votes in his district in 1972 (over 50%), he got only 13.6% of the votes in 1977, when he lost his seat, which is a huge swing. A possible hook, at 190 characters, is:
- ALT2: ... that Lalchand Fulamali won re-election to his seat in the West Bengal Legislative Assembly in 1972 with over half of the votes cast, yet he lost the seat in 1977 with only 13.6% of the vote? —BlueMoonset (talk) 06:33, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
- Whilst technically true, it is hardly remarkable seeing the larger trend in WB politics in the 1970s. CPI was allied to Indira in 1972, and suffered when the Emergency ended and the popular backlash against it. --Soman (talk) 08:58, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
- Soman, from the point of view of those who do not know about WB politics—probably the vast majority of people reading the main page that day—that kind of a swing could be intriguing, as they won't know the background. However, I understand your objection, so please supply a new hook, since ALT1 seems not to be hooky in any way (so I've just struck it per Yoninah), and the original hook had BLP issues. This is your nomination, so if you're interested in seeing it prosper, please take a more active role here. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:55, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
- ALT3 ... that West Bengal communist legislator Lalchand Fulamali had been jailed during a 1962 food movement? --Soman (talk) 18:47, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
- Is there a chance that more detail could be added to the article, explaining what the food movement was or describing his council activities? Or why other arrests occurred? This would make it easier to develop good hooks. Thanks, Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 05:22, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
- I only mentioned the arrests above; the 4th-grade education is certainly one possibility. Looking at the article just now, however, one thing that struck me was that although he won a majority of the votes in his district in 1972 (over 50%), he got only 13.6% of the votes in 1977, when he lost his seat, which is a huge swing. A possible hook, at 190 characters, is:
- I agree that the hook is uninspiring but as a BLP, I thought that both his lack of education and his arrests were frowned on for use in the hook. This nomination has been hanging around for ages and really needs to move forward. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:55, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
It's been another week and no response from Soman. This nomination is over three months old; marking for closure. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:53, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
