Template:Did you know nominations/Klallam language

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The result was: rejected by BlueMoonset (talk) 15:50, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Too short to qualify for DYK, and also far from the required 5x expansion.

Klallam language

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• ... that the extinct language Klallam was once spoken from Vancouver Island, British Columbia to the Olympic Peninsula of Washington state?

5x expanded by Carrite (talk). Nominated by Theparties (talk) at 06:15, 13 February 2014 (UTC).

• Okay, so the DYKcheck feature only counts 1260 characters. That said, the sounds and definitions under are extensive enough that I'll personally count them. The article is a solid start, worth DYK status.
• Have you been able to find reference as to whether the language still taught through story?
• Here's the actual issues in the links to resolve:
  • Can you explain why you have most of Montler's website's pages linked, page-by-page, when the navigation on his site is clear. I'm wondering if we could limit the list to a few core pages.
  • The Washington Post article doesn't work for me. It just redirects to the home page. Is it still working for you?
  • The two Klallam tribes, and the storyteller... are they relevant? Do they have content in the language? Otherwise, they're more connected with Klallam people.
  • This article is linked to from the Klallam people article, but way down. Even though it's an extinct language, I'd consider adding "Klallam language (extinct)" to the infobox. While this isn't normally part of the DYK process, inbound links are beneficial to making sure articles get visitors.
  • As for the hook, have you considered anything referencing how recent the language went extinct? I'm wondering whether that might get more eyeballs, the currency of it all? Perhaps something like:

... that the last native speaker of the Klallam language, once spoken from British Columbia to Washington state, died in February 2014?

• • What do you think? -- Zanimum (talk) 01:57, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm fine with the new hook. I can find some sources online though I might need a few more days to do so.--Theparties (talk) 08:24, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Sources for whether the language is still taught? That's not a necessity. -- Zanimum (talk) 20:01, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

• The prose portion of the article, not including inbox, graphs or lists, is 1176 characters, which does not satisfy the basic rule of a minimum of 1500 characters of text. Yoninah (talk) 21:58, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

• Furthermore, according to DYKcheck this article contained 752 prose characters prior to expansion, requiring a 5x expansion to 3760 prose characters. The article is currently at 1290 prose characters, which means another 3x expansion is required from where it is, and it's even below the minimum 1500 prose characters required of new articles. This clearly isn't going to qualify for DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:48, 28 February 2014 (UTC)