Template:Did you know nominations/Kathleen Pelham Burn

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 14:53, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Kathleen Pelham Burn

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Kathleen Pelham Burn

... that Kathleen Pelham Burn, a Countess of Drogheda, was nicknamed "The Flying Countess" because of her involvement with early aviation? Source: The best is a scanned copy of a contemporary news report that is available on Commons archive
- ALT1:... that early 20th century socialite and aviator Kathleen Pelham Burn also competed at Wimbledon, held seánces for art masters, and married both an Irish and a Mexican aristocrat? Source: All described in Turtle Bunbury's writings.

Reviewed: Thomas I. Gasson
Comment: New creation of article; a version I have never seen was deleted last year in a user copyvio investigation.

Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 21:31, 4 March 2020 (UTC).

I'll review this one. YorkshireLad ✿ ^(talk) 11:47, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - I'm not sure Tennis Forum is a reliable source, and it's used for a lot of the facts in the article. Everything but the news article seems to have an additional source: can Tennis Forum be omitted, and the news clipping cited directly? (The URL given is to the start of the mega-thread: this is the page about Pelham Burn [1])
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image eligibility:

Freely licensed: - Needs a US public domain tag on its Commons page. In addition, I feel like it needs a more reliable source than a forum post for having been taken in the 1920s. Is it possible to locate the article anywhere?
Used in article:
Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I really like the hooks; I think all the problems could be resolved by finding the source for that newspaper article. YorkshireLad ✿ ^(talk) 12:05, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

PS Found where the clipping is from: it's from The Tatler, 18 December 1918, on p11. ([2], second result) YorkshireLad ✿ ^(talk) 19:57, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

@YorkshireLad: I can look into that, but if you've found the original article, feel free to add it in yourself :) Kingsif (talk) 20:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Sure, I can have a go at that. :-) (I haven't got the article itself because I don't have access to the service that presents the articles, but I can look at the copy you uploaded to Commons.) I think in that case I'd like someone else to have a look over this review, since I'd then be an involved editor and I'm still relatively early in my reviewing "career", so to speak. (This is my second review.) YorkshireLad ✿ ^(talk) 20:38, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

@Kingsif: Slight problem I found, when investigating the image to add the US public domain tag: there's a credit beneath the image to Bertram Park, who died in 1972. Unforunately, that means that according to this flowchart, copyright in the UK does not expire on it until 2042, so it can't be on Commons. It is allowed to be on Wikipedia because it's public domain in the US because it was published in 1918, so I'd suggest moving it over here and adding Template:PD-US-expired-abroad. I think it's still eligible to appear on the Main Page, but that's something I'd like a second opinion on. YorkshireLad ✿ ^(talk) 11:15, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I've fixed the issues. If I saw this article afresh I'd be happy to approve it, but since I've now had a certain amount of input I think I'm no longer an uninvolved observer. I'm requesting that someone else take a look. The image, if used, will need to be the local copy rather than the Commons one. YorkshireLad ✿ ^(talk) 11:19, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Fresh review. Everything checks out - sourcing, copyvios, length, and newness. Either hook is interesting. Approved.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 02:36, 16 April 2020 (UTC)