Template:Did you know nominations/June 9 Deng Speech
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The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:09, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
June 9 Deng Speech
edit- ... that Deng Xiaoping delivered only one public address on the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989?
- Reviewed Pointe de la Torche
Created/expanded by Colipon (talk). Self nom at 16:23, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Could you add a citation confirming the hook's assertion that this was Deng's only public address on the protests? I can't tell if that's supported by the offline ref cited at the end of the paragraph. --Offenbach (talk) 18:40, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- Perhaps we can change the hook to "Deng Xiaoping addressed martial law units after the crackdown in Tiananmen on June 9, 1989?" Colipon+(Talk) 14:41, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
- A bit of a dull hook, to be honest. I'd suggest the following. What do you think? Prioryman (talk) 21:02, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that in his speech of June 9, 1989, Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping implicitly compared the Tiananmen Square shootings to the 1969 Kent State shootings in the United States?
- I don't think the first hook will be 'controversial' in any way, since out of the literature that I have read on this issue, none of them find it important to talk about any other public speech by Deng. The latter might even be more problematic, since only one journal article describes this allusion, and it is not stated explicitly within the speech (Kent State that is). Colipon+(Talk) 21:45, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- The problem with the first hook is that it isn't sourced. I've tried and failed to find any source stating that it was Deng's only public speech about the protests. It's true that, like you, I've not found any references to other speeches by Deng but as the saying goes, absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. We do at least have a source for the hook I suggested. I've added the word "implicitly" to water it down a bit. Prioryman (talk) 22:39, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- In revisiting this issue, I am amenable to your version. Colipon+(Talk) 03:06, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
- I don't think the first hook will be 'controversial' in any way, since out of the literature that I have read on this issue, none of them find it important to talk about any other public speech by Deng. The latter might even be more problematic, since only one journal article describes this allusion, and it is not stated explicitly within the speech (Kent State that is). Colipon+(Talk) 21:45, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
