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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 11:43, 19 March 2013 (UTC).
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Irving Sayles
edit- ... that the coon songs of vaudevillian Irving Sayles elicited multiple encores in Tasmania?
- Reviewed: Lillian Lawrence
Created by Gobonobo (talk). Self nominated at 17:26, 4 March 2013 (UTC).
Article was created last five days and is long enough. Whilst the hook is properly cited, the article in general lacks sufficient inline cited sources.
ALT ... that the coon songs of African American vaudeville performer, Irving Sayles elicited multiple encores in Australia?
- If we wanted, we could be specific and use Hobart as the place for the encores, which is supported by the citation. I think African American is a good addition but am partial to the 'vaudevillian' wording. How about something like:
- ALT2 ... that the coon songs of African American vaudevillian Irving Sayles elicited multiple encores in Tasmania?
The term coon songs is provocative; I would temper it:
- ALT3 ... that the racist coon songs of African American vaudevillian Irving Sayles elicited encores in Australia?
It's been over a week without action. Needs a new reviewer to check the issues raised. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:20, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
For Alt3 since I agree that Australia will be more recognizable than Tasmania. I don't know if adding "racist" actually tempers the use of "coon song" since racist is a loaded phrase in and of itself. However its presence coupled with the description of Sayles as African-American certainly heightens the "punchiness" of the hook. I'll leave it to the DYK promoter to decide whether or not to keep the "racist" adjective because the hook/article can be promoted without it too. Did some slight tweaking to add section headings to the article so it looked less like a macro-stub. Date and size verified and passes DYK criteria for referencing with additional inline added to address previous concerns. No signs of plagiarism or close paraphrasing. AgneCheese/Wine 21:51, 18 March 2013 (UTC)