Template:Did you know nominations/Horseracing in the Philippines

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The result was: rejected by Allen3 ^talk 13:54, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Insufficient progress toward resolving outstanding issues

Horseracing in the Philippines

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... that in the beginning, horseraces in the Philippines were done on a straight direction, then became clockwise on an oval track, before finally adopting counter-clockwise runs?

Reviewed: Persecution of Chinese Indians

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nominated at 03:49, 9 December 2013 (UTC).

ALT1: ... that the major trophy of horseracing in the Philippines known as the Gran Copa de Manila survived two wars and a 38-year stay inside a bank vault abroad, only to be lost during a local fire? - AnakngAraw (talk) 06:12, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that the direction of runs in horseracing in the Philippines evolved from straight to clockwise and then counter-clockwise? - AnakngAraw (talk) 06:17, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
ALT3: ... that the daily-double option, a type of bet in horseracing in the Philippines, began in the 1940s and is not offered anywhere else in the world? - AnakngAraw (talk) 04:17, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
ALT4: ... that the establishment of the first "racino" in Asia is a part of the history of horseracing in the Philippines? - AnakngAraw (talk) 04:00, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Comment. I've just finished copy-editing this. Some comments:

(ALT1) The article no longer states it was kept in a vault because it said it was sent to the Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank for safekeeping [in a vault] and I thought that to say "in a vault" was redundant as in this context "safe" and "vault" are synonymous. The fire is not said to be "local", so that word should be cut – in any case it would unlikely be lost in a distant fire.
(ALT2) Most English racecourses run clockwise, but some run anticlockwise: "Jump racing: The courses". BBC. 13 November 2002. Retrieved 31 December 2013..
(ALT3) "Daily double" is not actually described in the article (it is mentioned but no description of what it is).
(ALT4) Racino has an article so can be linked in the DYK, it is linked now in the article.
The article is also quite reliant on two references for over 60 citations; while this is good, it would be better if they were e.g. in Harvard style and individual pages referred to.

These really are more concerns with the article itself rather than the DYK. Si Trew (talk) 13:32, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Any progress here? Time for re-review yet? --PFHLai (talk) 04:09, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Full review needed, as none has yet been done. (Si's copyedit comments, while helpful, are not a review.) BlueMoonset (talk) 15:47, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
@SimonTrew: All of the hooks rely ON A BLOG, in violation of WP:RS. While Jenny might be a journalist somewhere, her personal blog about horseracing isn't proper for academic use. Beyond that, the article met newness criteria when it was nominated. Because of the sourcing problem, I'm uncertain about neutrality although it doesn't appear biased. The article has inline citations. All the hooks meet length requirements. QPQ was done. Chris Troutman (talk) 05:21, 24 January 2014 (UTC)