Template:Did you know nominations/Hitler family of Ohio
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) 04:17, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
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Hitler family of Ohio
- ... that the prominent Hitler family of Ohio first arrived in Ohio in 1799? Source: https://www.circlevilleherald.com/news/hitlers-were-county-pioneers/article_2a6487b2-a34a-55f4-83f4-dfcf116d15d5.html
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Created by Mucube (talk). Self-nominated at 01:03, 31 December 2022 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough: - See below.
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing: - There is information in the WP:LEAD that is neither cited there nor in the body.
- Neutral: - See below.
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - See below.
Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - "Prominent" is not cited in the article at all. Besides that, the hook doesn't meet the citation placement requirement of WP:DYKCRIT 3b, which states that
Each fact in the hook must be supported in the article by at least one inline citation to a reliable source, appearing no later than the end of the sentence(s) offering that fact. Citations at the end of the paragraph are not sufficient. This rule applies even when a citation would not be required for the purposes of the article.
- Interesting: - The proposed hook is not interesting. It shouldn't be too difficult to come up with a quirky hook.
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: Article created on 26 December. While the prose length exceeds 1,500 characters, this is still to my eye a stub/too short. All sources are, as far as I can tell, reliable for the material they are cited for. Earwig reveals no outright copyvio, but when the source says Nelson Hitler, born in 1833 in Pickaway County, the son of Jacob and Sarah Gouger Hitler, owned 2,000 acres in Pickaway, Circleville and Washington Townships.
and the article says Nelson Hitler, the son of Jacob and Sarah Gouger Hitler, was born in January 4, 1833 in Pickaway County. He owned 2000 acres of land in Pickaway, Circleville, and Washington Townships.
, I'd say that's unacceptably WP:Close paraphrasing. Likewise when the source says he is widely known as a very successful farmer and stock-raiser.
and the article says He was widely known as a very successful farmer and stock-raiser.
The article has a male-centric perspective. For instance, it says that George was the first Hitler to arrive in Ohio despite the couple moving there together (along with their kids, for that matter). It also says he had seven more children
when of course they did. This is the nominator's second nomination, so they are QPQ exempt. Some specific content issues I noted:
- The article is not consistent in the spelling of Gougar vs. Gouger.
four of their children, Catharine, Jacob and George.
– that's just three.Jacob Hitler, son of George Hitler, was three years old when he arrived, in 1799, with his father in Pickaway County, where he spent his entire life.
– five commas in one sentence. Needs copyediting for readability.was born in January 4, 1833
– The source says January 24.Dr. Gay Hitler's office, located on West Main Street started in 1922 and ended abruptly in 1946
– the office started and ended?
I note that the article was nominated for WP:Speedy deletion per WP:A7, which was declined with the comment "not totally unambiguous". I must say that I'm also not convinced that this meets our standards of notability. Considering this and the rather extensive issues noted above, I would suggest withdrawing this nomination. Ping nominator Mucube. TompaDompa (talk) 03:06, 31 December 2022 (UTC)