Template:Did you know nominations/Grade II* listed buildings in Coventry

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 10:37, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Grade II* listed buildings in Coventry edit

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... that Christchurch Steeple (pictured) was originally part of a 13th-century friary, was mostly destroyed in a World War II air raid, and is now a bar and one of 24 Grade II* listed buildings in Coventry?

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Created/expanded by HJ Mitchell (talk), Rock drum (talk). Nominated by HJ Mitchell (talk) at 22:36, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

New: Good. Length: Good, even taking account that it's a list. Policy: I'm not sure about that reference columns. Why aren't the sources just cited in-line within the relevant cell of the table? Abyssal (talk) 17:53, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

That's perfectly normal in a list—the ref isn't just for the prose but for all the data in the row and for the entry's inclusion on the list. Cf. List of field marshals of the British Army (an FL) and Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Grade I listed buildings in Coventry/archive1. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:01, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

OK, everything else is looking passable, although the hook is 207 characters. If we ignore the "(pictured)" parenthesis like we probably should the hook can barely squeak by, but for the sake of this nomination being better than the bare minimum I think the hook should be condensed. Abyssal (talk) 20:48, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Switching "in a World War II air raid" for "in World War II" would shave 11 characters off—bringing it comfortably within the 200 excluding the (pictured) and just under including it. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 10:26, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

"in World War II" seems stifled... how about "in a 1941 air raid". Although I would rework it as... ~~that Christchurch Steeple (pictured), the surviving part of a 13th-century friary destroyed during World War II, is now a popular bar and one of 24 Grade II* listed buildings in Coventry~~ --Errant ^(chat!) 11:10, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Wait, shouldn't that be "damaged during World War II"? Abyssal (talk) 13:30, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

This is a DYK nom, not an FAC. There's nothing wrong with the hook I originally proposed, and if seven characters including (pictured) is really that big-a-deal I've proposed an alternative. Please just approve this. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:14, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

If this alt hook slightly tweaked from your proposal is satisfactory, this DYK will be good to go. "... that Christchurch Steeple (pictured) was originally part of a 13th-century friary, mostly destroyed during World War II, is now a bar, and is one of 24 Grade II* listed buildings in Coventry?" Abyssal (talk) 15:46, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Propose: ~~"Christchurch Steeple (pictured) was originally part of a 13th-century friary, was mostly destroyed during World War II and is now a bar and one of 24 Grade II* listed buildings in Coventry".~~ Please approve that—it meets all the criteria and I don't have time to keep discussing it. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:55, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

With the addition of some formatting, I approve the following ALT WHATEVER: "... that Christchurch Steeple (pictured) was originally part of a 13th-century friary, was mostly destroyed during World War II and is now a bar and one of 24 Grade II* listed buildings in Coventry?"

Who is "I"? There have been far too many unsigned DYK approvals lately, and it has to stop. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:49, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

In DYK, we give reasonable deference to the nominator's preference of a hook. There is no reason not to here, though the unsigned Abyssal has ignored HJ Mitchell's stated preference in favor of Abyssal's own previous proposal. I am striking that one (plus all others, to avoid confusion, since they all had issues), and approving HJ Mitchell's final proposal (properly formatted):

Final ALT: ... that Christchurch Steeple (pictured) was originally part of a 13th-century friary, was mostly destroyed during World War II, and is now a bar and one of 24 Grade II* listed buildings in Coventry? —BlueMoonset (talk) 05:04, 21 October 2012 (UTC)