- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by BlueMoonset (talk) 02:53, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Article changed to redirect per Articles for Deletion.
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GolfScript edit
- ... that the Hello world program in GolfScript consists of just the text "Hello World!"?
- Reviewed: Dalhem Church
Created by APerson (talk). Self nominated at 01:38, 20 June 2014 (UTC).
- "Hello World!" with quotes would be ""Hello World!"" which makes the hook confusing. Hook doesn't seem to be supported by the reference (at least not directly). Article is new enough, long enough (just), but follows the sources pretty closely (although this may be hard to avoid with technical language). Belle (talk) 00:45, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Added another source. APerson (talk!) 03:08, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- I know this is stupid, but the new source is a publicly editable wiki, so not what Wikipedia has deemed a reliable source. You might also consider just dropping the "with quotes" at the end of the hook, as it doesn't make it less accurate but does make it punchier. (And...probably nothing to do with you directly, but the Hello world program article seems to imply that the output is supposed to be "Hello world" (no exclamation mark) whereas nearly every example, including this one, is "Hello world!" (with exclamation mark). )Belle (talk) 12:05, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm going to say OK on this, even though it requires a teeny tiny bit of brain power to get from the source to the hook. Everything else checks out (see above), but you might want to prepare for a possible push back further up the chain (so if you can find an authoritative source which actually has the exact text "Hello World!" ram it in) Belle (talk) 00:27, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
The article looks to me to be lacking in independent sources demonstrating notability. Gatoclass (talk) 11:36, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Is notability something we judge here? I was told that it wasn't. Belle (talk) 11:56, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Of course it is - all articles have to conform to basic policies. Gatoclass (talk) 12:30, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it be nominated at AFD then? Belle (talk) 12:35, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- It's not my job to do that, my job as a reviewer is simply to identify the issues. If someone adds more reliable sources, this article can be reassessed, if not it will probably fail. I suppose one way to get more eyes on the page would be to nominate for AFD, but again, I don't see it as my role to do that. Gatoclass (talk) 13:00, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Fair enough. @APerson:, I'm afraid your article is probably going to be stuck in limbo unless you find different sources or somebody puts it up for deletion. I understand very little about the standard for sources except that they seem to be different for every article. Belle (talk) 13:35, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- It's not my job to do that, my job as a reviewer is simply to identify the issues. If someone adds more reliable sources, this article can be reassessed, if not it will probably fail. I suppose one way to get more eyes on the page would be to nominate for AFD, but again, I don't see it as my role to do that. Gatoclass (talk) 13:00, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it be nominated at AFD then? Belle (talk) 12:35, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Of course it is - all articles have to conform to basic policies. Gatoclass (talk) 12:30, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Is notability something we judge here? I was told that it wasn't. Belle (talk) 11:56, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Rather than leave this in drifting any longer, I've nominated the article at AfD due to the notability concerns that Gatoclass gave, and with which I concur. At the end of the AfD process, this will either be considered notable or will have been deleted, at which point the nomination can proceed or be closed. For now, it will remain in limbo for another week or so. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:17, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
AfD closed with the article being changed to a redirect to code golf. Since the article no longer exists, the nomination must be closed. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:53, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
