Template:Did you know nominations/Giles Guthrie

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The result was: promoted by Fuebaey (talk) 15:04, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Giles Guthrie edit

  • ... that Giles Guthrie, chairman and chief executive of British airline BOAC, served as a pilot during World War II and in 1965 captained the airline's new Vickers VC10 jet airliner on a North American tour?

Created by Nick (talk). Self nominated at 13:47, 27 November 2014 (UTC).

  • Date, length checks out. File:Giles Guthrie 1936.png could be added, as it is on Commons. Close paraphrase not found in spot check. Just a tiny issue, the article doesn't say he was test pilot during WWII, just pilot. Could we cut that. --Soman (talk) 09:39, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Yeah, quite happy to cut that. His test pilot work is mentioned at Giles_Guthrie#World_War_II, in the couple of paragraphs describing his work with Naval Air Fighting Development Unit. The NAFDU needs an article though so not mentioning it would make sense. Nick (talk) 11:04, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Ok, gtg. --Soman (talk) 12:32, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
  • The hook is over 200 characters, and therefore doesn't qualify for DYK. Nick, this needs an ALT hook that's shorter. The hook as it is makes it sound like Guthrie is currently chairman; I'm suggesting one that clarifies this:
  • ALT1: ... that Giles Guthrie, who became chairman and chief executive of British airline BOAC in 1964, subsequently captained the airline's new Vickers VC10 jet airliner on a North American tour?
This one's 185 characters. I think for "North American tour" to be properly supported, more than Boston needs to be mentioned in the article (the source also talks about New York City's JFK airport); otherwise, "on a North American tour" should be revised to "to North America". BlueMoonset (talk) 00:35, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, fine by me. Nick (talk) 00:38, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Soman, did you want to check the ALT1 hook? I can't approve my own hook. However, if no change is made to the article, you'll have to go with ALT1a below, since ALT1 isn't adequately supported in the article at the moment:
  • ALT1a: ... that Giles Guthrie, who became chairman and chief executive of British airline BOAC in 1964, subsequently captained the airline's new Vickers VC10 jet airliner to North America? BlueMoonset (talk) 01:57, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
for ALT1a. --Soman (talk) 08:27, 27 December 2014 (UTC)