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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:18, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

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  • ... that Everything Everything's third album, Get to Heaven, was at one point bookmakers' favourite for the Mercury Prize, but was not ultimately nominated? Source 1: "Despite strong odds from bookmakers in the run up to the announcement, new albums from Blur, Paul Weller, Everything Everything and Laura Marling were not included." (The Telegraph) / Source 2: "Everything Everything are bookmakers’ favourites to win this year’s Mercury Prize ahead of tomorrow’s announcement of the 2015 nominees." (NME)

Improved to Good Article status by Fox (talk). Self-nominated at 15:42, 29 September 2017 (UTC).

  • Gorgeous work, Fox! Length is good, date of promotion checks out, no policy issues, quotes are sourced, and citations abound. I like the mention of bookies in the hook as an item of interest. I would propose two small changes to the hook though - we should include the year of the prize, and I think it reads a little stronger as "but was ultimately not even nominated". Just so the reversal comes through very strongly.
  • I'm not married to that though so I'm fine to strike it if you or any other reviewers hate it. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 03:32, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the review, Premeditated Chaos! I'm a little iffy on the "even" construction as it might be seen as editorialising. Happy to hear other thoughts. — fox 23:46, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Yeah I'm not married to it, I just thought it served to emphasize the contrast - that they were the blatant favorite and then weren't nominated at all. It's an interesting reversal. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:52, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that while bookmakers gave Everything Everything's third album, Get to Heaven, 4/1 odds of winning the 2015 Mercury Prize, it was ultimately not among the 12 nominated? --Usernameunique (talk) 23:04, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestion, Usernameunique :) I think though that UK-style gambling odds might be a little jarring on the main page? I appreciate the extra detail, but I can't imagine the cursory reader will understand "4/1" without more context. — fox 17:50, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
I agree with fox on this one, "bookmakers' favorite" is more obvious to the casual reader. Not being from the UK, when I read "4/1 odds" I think, "yeah and?" not "wow that's crazy I want to know more." ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:21, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
@Premeditated Chaos: So this has sat for a bit ... is it waiting for a green tick? If so, how about we go for ALT1? — fox 20:49, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Shit, sorry, I was waiting for more input from the other editor and forgot to come back here. Yes, I think we are good to roll with ALT1. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 20:55, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
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