Template:Did you know nominations/Euthymia (medicine)

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:49, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Euthymia (medicine)

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~~... that euthymia is defined as a normal, tranquil mental state or mood?~~ Source: "Fava, G.A. & Bech, P." [1]
- ALT1:... that the word euthymia traces its roots to the Greek words eu, meaning 'well', and thymo, meaning 'soul' or 'emotion'? Source: "Fava, G.A. & Bech, P." [2]

5x expanded by Logan McAbee-Thomas (talk). Self-nominated at 14:44, 26 April 2018 (UTC).

The article was expanded on the submitted date.
The article is over 1,500 characters.
The article meets core policies and guidelines.
The non-alternative hook, which I favour, is at 98 characters, well below the designated limit.
This hook is interesting and easily digestable.
The hook is cited with an inline citation in the article (ref. 1).
The hook is neutral.
New editor, his first DYK. Does not need QPQ.
Cognissonance (talk) 17:54, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

With due apologies, I'm not entirely satisfied with the sourcing of the hook, so I've pulled this from the prep for now. The hook wasn't sourced in the article, so I looked into the most likely reference, and was unable to find it there, either. @Logan McAbee-Thomas, Cognissonance, Yoninah, and Jytdog: Would one of you folks be able to address this? If it isn't sourceable within the framework of MEDRS, I'd suggest something like "Euthymia is the goal of psychiatric interventions" (or some alternative wording of that fact). Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 06:50, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93: I found a source that describes euthymia as "a state of quiet satisfaction"; it also describes its etymology and ascribes the concept to Democritus. Another source can justify the existing hook, although the word "tranquil" would have to be sourced by the first one I cited. Cognissonance (talk) 11:53, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

@Cognissonance: That's good, but the wording in those still doesn't quite match that given in the article or the hook; and it needs to, especially in a medical article. Vanamonde (talk) 12:14, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

@Logan McAbee-Thomas: Perhaps choose another hook from the article, which appears to have changed since I last saw it. Cognissonance (talk) 12:47, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93: How about "... that according to Ancient Greek philosopher Democritus, euthymia means a state of internal calm and contentment?" This is quoted in ref. 1, stated in the article, and contains 111 characters. Cognissonance (talk) 17:34, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

To be honest that seems a bit dull. A greek writer defines a greek-sounding term as something...why should I be interested? I'd reiterate my previous suggestion; try to make something of the fact that psychiatry tries to achieve this state in patients. Since Euthymia sounds like a negative condition, that would be hooky. Vanamonde (talk) 17:43, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93: "... that the purpose of psychiatry is for patients to achieve euthymia, a state of internal calm and contentment?" 109 characters, supported by the same source. Cognissonance (talk) 18:44, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

I know this sounds picky, but it still needs some tweaking. I think you need to go the other way; "Euthymia...is a goal for psychiatric intervention". Otherwise, you risk overstating it. And (this is only a suggestion) it may be hookier without the definition. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 04:31, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93: The hook should explain what euthymia actually is. ALT2"... that euthymia, a state of internal calm and contentment, is a goal for psychiatric intervention?" If you could go for a compromise, I'll place this above the ~~original hook~~. Cognissonance (talk) 12:47, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

I think it would be hookier without the definition, but I'm okay with this. You don't need to move it up: I've labelled it ALT2, which should be GTG based on my verification of the hook and the previous review for the rest. Vanamonde (talk) 12:54, 8 May 2018 (UTC)