- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 03:14, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
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Dolores (model) edit
- ... that the model Dolores was a "happy prisoner" of the sculptor Jacob Epstein?
- ALT1:... that the model Dolores denied that she was "a heartless vampire"?
- Reviewed: One of my first self noms.
Created by Philafrenzy (talk), Edwardx (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 18:58, 17 September 2014 (UTC).
The article is well-referenced and was nominated within the required time period. It is written well. I like the first hook and AGF regarding the content, as the source is a book I don't have access to. I don't like the second hook because the article does not say that she was accused of being a heartless vampire (such that she would then deny it), only that she said she was not. Subtle distinction, but important, I believe.
- Disappointed that QPQ was not done. The spirit of the QPQ exception is for newer users who have less experience in DYK matters and article review in general. As the nominator is a very experienced editor with several DYK credits who must be familiar with the process, this exception doesn't really apply for him, regardless of the self-nom circumstances. Julia\talk 21:49, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
- I am less informed than you would think about DYK rules Julia. On the matter of the second hook, it was Dolores herself who said she wasn't a heartless vampire, at least if you believe the reporting of The Daily Express as quoted in the article. For what it's worth I think ALt1 is by far the stronger hook. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:06, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, I think maybe I wasn't clear. I thought the wording of the hook, saying that "she denied" being a heartless vampire, means that she was accused of being one first. This is the part that isn't really accurate. Perhaps I'm just being too pedantic? Julia\talk 05:09, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
- I count myself amongst the foremost pedants in this land Julia, but I do think you are worrying unnecessarily. She was accused in court of preying on Atkinson and leaving him when his money ran out, I don't know if anyone used the exact phrase "heartless vampire" to her face or in print, but we have a source for her denying it and I really think that is enough. It's a matter a fact that she denied she was a heartless vampire. I would further like to state that I am not Santa Claus, and you can quote me on that! Philafrenzy (talk) 09:01, 20 October 2014 (UTC)