Template:Did you know nominations/David A. Randall
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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 11:55, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
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David A. Randall edit
- ... that book dealer David A. Randall sold two Gutenberg Bibles?
- Reviewed: not a self-nom
Created by Philafrenzy (talk), 7&6=thirteen (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 23:21, 31 August 2014 (UTC).
- Alt1 ... that David A. Randall obtained for the Lilly Library the manuscripts of the James Bond novels? Philafrenzy (talk) 23:29, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- Alt2 ... that David A. Randall obtained the manuscripts of the James Bond novels for the Lilly Library? Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:59, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
- Comment Review under way. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:50, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
New article. New enough, long enough. Clearly notable on this important professor, bookman and librarian. Supported by ample sources. Duplication and plagiarism checking reveals no copyvio or close paraphrasing. QPQ not required. Hooks and article are neutral, and the hooks are all very interesting and referenced, amply supported by all of the many sources. The book jacket I could not read, but it is one of many reliable and overlapping sources and I WP:AGF. Nor could I access the New Yorker article. I am frankly torn as to which hook to recommend. Gutenberg Bibles are more classic, but manuscripts of Ian Fleming's James Bond novels is more popular and recognizable. If we go with the latter, I suggest we add Fleming's name to the hook. Good to go. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 02:33, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- Alt3 ... that David A. Randall obtained the typescripts of Ian Fleming's James Bond novels for the Lilly Library?
- Thank you. I think Alt 3 is best. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:50, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- A minor quibble. The source says typescripts, not manuscripts. The wikipedia article suggests that typescripts are manuscripts, however. So I changed Alt3 accordingly. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 10:55, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- Interestingly, none of this seems to be included in the Fleming article at all. Including the scientific book collection and ownership of The Book Collector. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:06, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- What do you think for the hook? Manuscripts or typescripts or just manuscripts? I'm not trying to create a controversy. But this is the kind of minutiae that some higher level reviewer can get hung up on. And there are lots of cooks in the DYK kitchen. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:34, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- You are absolutely right that it should be correct. If it was typed it's typescript definitely. Randall would never have tolerated any ambiguity on the matter! Philafrenzy (talk) 11:39, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- According to this "All his novels were written at Goldeneye during January-March, all typed on folio paper ... As a journalist Fleming was used to composing on the typewriter, hence no "manuscripts" exist." Philafrenzy (talk) 11:51, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- What do you think for the hook? Manuscripts or typescripts or just manuscripts? I'm not trying to create a controversy. But this is the kind of minutiae that some higher level reviewer can get hung up on. And there are lots of cooks in the DYK kitchen. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:34, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- Interestingly, none of this seems to be included in the Fleming article at all. Including the scientific book collection and ownership of The Book Collector. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:06, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- A minor quibble. The source says typescripts, not manuscripts. The wikipedia article suggests that typescripts are manuscripts, however. So I changed Alt3 accordingly. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 10:55, 4 October 2014 (UTC)