Template:Did you know nominations/Crystal Dynamics
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Bruxton talk 17:16, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
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Crystal Dynamics
- ... that Crystal Dynamics was the first American developer licensed for the PlayStation? Source: Video Games Chronicle, The 30 Year History of Crystal Dynamics – Noclip Documentary (8:25–8:40; ref #11 in the article)
- ALT1: ... that Crystal Dynamics closed its publishing business alongside mass layoffs in 1996? Source: "Crystal Dynamics Faces Financial Reality" (ref #32 in the article)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Only Up!
- Comment: Long article, so additional hook suggestions are welcome.
Improved to Good Article status by IceWelder (talk). Self-nominated at 10:33, 14 November 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Crystal Dynamics; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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QPQ: 
Overall: 
new enough:14 Nov GA promotion & long enough: 18025 readable characters. Both primary hook and ALT1 have been verified (ALT is not as interesting to me as the primary hook, but adequate). Neutrally written; straightforward history and free of fancruft as far as I can see. Sourcing looks good with several sources per para & copyvio of those sources unlikely according to both GA review (AGF) and Earwig's copyvio detector (6.5% similarity). ☆ Bri (talk) 17:38, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- @IceWelder: I had a problem with the YouTube source for your primary hook, maybe you would consider this one instead: Who is Mark Cerny, the man behind PS5, Video Games Chronicle? ☆ Bri (talk) 16:48, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Bri: Very nice find! That absolutely works for me. I added the source and relevant extra information to the article. Regards, IceWelder [✉] 17:34, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- Great, marking this complete, assuming GF that you will follow up on the outstanding source question on your QPQ. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:37, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- Just noting that the requested followup on QPQ appears to be complete, and the QPQ review is signed off. Thank you. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:40, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- @IceWelder and Bri: I too would not accept the YouTube source based on WP:RSPYT so I appreciate that the reviewer has found a better source and it has been added to the article. My concern is the YouTube source is used for 21 citations in the article. I want to ask the GA reviewer @Shooterwalker: why they allowed the redlined source to be used so many times - I see that it was not mentioned in the review. The video was apparently made by Noclip which claims:
WE MAKE DOCUMENTARIES ABOUT VIDEO GAMES. THEY ARE FREE TO WATCH ON YOUTUBE & 100% CROWDFUNDED
Bruxton (talk) 16:34, 8 December 2023 (UTC)- @Bruxton: The video was indeed made by Noclip, which the Video games WikiProject widely considers reliable. Its founder and director, Danny O'Dwyer, is a journalist and video producer with years of professional experience. Moreover, the video mostly consists of interviews with people formerly involved with the company and does not draw information from thin air. YouTube is just the vessel here; per RSPYT:
Content uploaded from a verified official account, such as that of a news organization, may be treated as originating from the uploader and therefore inheriting their level of reliability.
- (emphasis added). IceWelder [✉] 16:47, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- @IceWelder: Thank you for the response. For my edification can you show me where the video game wikiproject has discussed the reliability of Noclip?
- @IceWelder: Bruxton (talk) 16:58, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- See, for example, this discussion, plus it is frequently discussed at the Wikipedia Discord. IceWelder [✉] 17:02, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for that link. The discussion on the project was rather truncated but I recognize the comments of the handful of participants thought it was reliable. There will be other eyes on the nomination going forward so I will promote this hook and others will be able to refer to this discussion. I appreciate your efforts. Bruxton (talk) 17:15, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- See, for example, this discussion, plus it is frequently discussed at the Wikipedia Discord. IceWelder [✉] 17:02, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- @IceWelder: Bruxton (talk) 16:58, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- @IceWelder: Thank you for the response. For my edification can you show me where the video game wikiproject has discussed the reliability of Noclip?
- @IceWelder and Bri: I too would not accept the YouTube source based on WP:RSPYT so I appreciate that the reviewer has found a better source and it has been added to the article. My concern is the YouTube source is used for 21 citations in the article. I want to ask the GA reviewer @Shooterwalker: why they allowed the redlined source to be used so many times - I see that it was not mentioned in the review. The video was apparently made by Noclip which claims:
- Hi @Bri: Very nice find! That absolutely works for me. I added the source and relevant extra information to the article. Regards, IceWelder [✉] 17:34, 14 November 2023 (UTC)