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The result was: promoted by Dying (talk) 11:05, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
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Chickaboom!
- ... that since country musician Tami Neilson is both Canadian and a New Zealander, her album Chickaboom! (2020) was nominated for both a Juno Award and an Aotearoa Music Award? Source: https://www.cbc.ca/music/junos/news/here-are-the-2021-juno-award-winners-1.6036001
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2020/11/nz-aotearoa-music-awards-2020-full-list-of-winners.html
Created by Prosperosity (talk). Self-nominated at 22:46, 12 January 2023 (UTC).
Everything appears in working order and this is a great hook, but, unfortunately, the article is not new enough—created in 2015—so I'm afraid I have to reject it. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 19:32, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
That's embarrassing, the nomination is for the album, not the singer, my apologies. New enough, long enough, cited. Looks good, confirmed. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 19:39, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Krisgabwoosh: Wonderful, thank you so much! --Prosperosity (talk) 23:08, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Prosperosity and Krisgabwoosh: The hook checks out, but it's a mouthful and you've possibly overexplained, so there's less of a reason to click. Can we try something shorter, like...
ALT0a: ... that Chickaboom! by country musician Tami Neilson was nominated for both a Juno and an Aotearoa Music Award?
- Other suggestions welcome. Think "catchy song lyric, catchy hook"... Cielquiparle (talk) 15:28, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Cielquiparle: I feel like this oversimplifies the hook to the point that it becomes generic. Any album can be nominated for an award, what makes this particularly interesting? Mentioning that the awards are from different countries (something like "... for both a Canadian Juno and New Zealand Aotearoa" award) could work but, eh, I still like the original. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 16:02, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- I agree that awards are inherently boring; it's nicer when there's something more to say. Cielquiparle (talk) 16:44, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Cielquiparle: How about ALT0b: ...
that Chickaboom! by country musician Tami Neilson was nominated for both a Canadian Juno and an New Zealand Aotearoa Music Award?Pretty much the same as the original alt with added country names, giving users a reason to click to find out why two different countries awarded her. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:23, 17 January 2023 (UTC)- Thanks, @Krisgabwoosh: ALT0b is definitely an improvement over ALT0 and ALT0a, IMO. (I've struck ALT0a.) It also overcomes another issue with ALT0, which is that the article doesn't explicitly say that the reason she was nominated for both awards was because of her dual citizenship. (Yes, it's awfully picky I know – I get that it's "implied" – but it also requires some outside knowledge that isn't in the article, whereas in an article like Super Ballon d'Or, the winner's eligibility due to dual citizenship is very explicit.) Listening to the album now (it is great!!) and another thought I had was – is there any way to work in the word "rockabilly" into a hook...? Cielquiparle (talk) 21:25, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Cielquiparle:Is she a rockabilly singer? If so, just replace "country musician" with "rockabilly musician". Krisgabwoosh (talk) 02:10, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'm happy for the changes but I'd strongly recommend against "New Zealand Aotearoa" - Aotearoa is the name of the country (and we only ever see the name listed in dual languages as "Aotearoa / New Zealand", so it looks very peculiar). --Prosperosity (talk) 02:31, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- How about ALT0c: ... that Chickaboom! by country musician Tami Neilson was nominated for both Canadian and New Zealand music awards? --Prosperosity (talk) 02:31, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- That works for me. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 03:04, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- ALT0c is the best so far. Thanks for workshopping. Cielquiparle (talk) 10:03, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- That works for me. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 03:04, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Krisgabwoosh: ALT0b is definitely an improvement over ALT0 and ALT0a, IMO. (I've struck ALT0a.) It also overcomes another issue with ALT0, which is that the article doesn't explicitly say that the reason she was nominated for both awards was because of her dual citizenship. (Yes, it's awfully picky I know – I get that it's "implied" – but it also requires some outside knowledge that isn't in the article, whereas in an article like Super Ballon d'Or, the winner's eligibility due to dual citizenship is very explicit.) Listening to the album now (it is great!!) and another thought I had was – is there any way to work in the word "rockabilly" into a hook...? Cielquiparle (talk) 21:25, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Cielquiparle: How about ALT0b: ...
- I agree that awards are inherently boring; it's nicer when there's something more to say. Cielquiparle (talk) 16:44, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Cielquiparle: I feel like this oversimplifies the hook to the point that it becomes generic. Any album can be nominated for an award, what makes this particularly interesting? Mentioning that the awards are from different countries (something like "... for both a Canadian Juno and New Zealand Aotearoa" award) could work but, eh, I still like the original. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 16:02, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Prosperosity and Krisgabwoosh: The hook checks out, but it's a mouthful and you've possibly overexplained, so there's less of a reason to click. Can we try something shorter, like...