- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:23, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
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Benjamin Hobson
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... that the medical missionary Benjamin Hobson found his services in such demand that he began training and writing textbooks for Chinese assistants?
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that, when his wife died within sight of England, medical missionary Benjamin Hobson remarried and booked a return passage to Guangzhou within a few months? - ALT2:
... that medical missionary Benjamin Hobson revolutionized Chinese and Japanese medicine with only a medical bachelorate? - ALT3:
... that medical missionary Benjamin Hobson was known to the Chinese as 合信, romanized at the time as Ho-sin? - ALT4:
... that the illustrations in medical missionary Benjamin Hobson’s influential Treatise on Physiology were cribbed from William Cheselden's century-old work? - Reviewed:
will doKarak Revolt - Comment: Note to reviewers: You don't need to go through all the hooks, just the one that grabs your interest.
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5x expanded by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 13:20, 23 July 2016 (UTC).
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- ✓ The hook ALT3 is an appropriate length at 155 characters
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This article is new enough and long enough. It is neutral and seems to be free of copyright issues. The image is appropriately licensed. I can't really approve any of the hooks. I would go for ALT4 but the source abstract mentions "A New Theory of the Body" rather than "Treatise on Physiology". ALT0 is not in the article and ALT1 mentions a few months, when in fact he was in Britain for 15 months. In ALT2, I do not know the significance of the "medical bachelorate", and ALT3 I think unsuitable. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:37, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
- Good catch on ALT1: I had mistaken it for March the next year. You missed the note about A New Theory of the Body just being an alternate translation from Wylie's? It's the same work, as you can verify by plugging the Chinese name into Google Translate. As for ALT2, I'm not sure why your not understand the MB (which is linked) makes it less interesting of a hook; if you didn't already know this, it's now standard to have medical schooling well past one's bachelorate and I'm not sure licensing boards would accept someone with only undergraduate training anywhere in the US. I'm not sure most Americans are even aware medical bachelorates even exist. (Might be a better hook to not link it directly though... force them to go through the article...) — LlywelynII 13:45, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
Well I haven't heard of a medical bachelorate, but as we are talking about a period nearly 200 years ago, I don't think it particularly impressive. Approving ALT4, or if you wanted to use ALT2, I would suggest changing it to ALT2a. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:00, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
- ALT5:
... that medical missionary Benjamin Hobson revolutionized Chinese and Japanese medicine despite having only a medical bachelorate?
- Hi, I came by to promote this, but have some questions. ALT4 is certainly hooky, but I feel it's inaccurate; the article states Hobson's work was "derived" from Cheselden's work, which is certainly acceptable. Calling it "cribbed" implies some sort of deviousness which is not expressed by the (offline) source. Regarding ALT2, he was a member of the Royal College of Surgeons. Why are you saying he had "only" an MB? It might be better to end the hook before mentioning any degree. Yoninah (talk) 21:03, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
- I don't think the source stated he credited Cheselden either, but I agree we shouldn't overstate what's supported too much. How about just
ALT 6: ... that that the illustrations in medical missionary Benjamin Hobson’s influential Treatise on Physiology were derived from William Cheselden's century-old work?
As for "why only an MB", that's been asked and answered but if the British reviewers here think it's not bizarre (it is) we can just go with one of the other hooks. — LlywelynII 02:38, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
- Yoninah, does this revision to ALT5 (the former ALT2a, I believe) satisfy? If not, might you propose a hook that you think works? Trying to get this moving again. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:21, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- I don't think the source stated he credited Cheselden either, but I agree we shouldn't overstate what's supported too much. How about just
