Template:Did you know nominations/Attack against Mehmed Ali Pasha

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 03:39, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Attack against Mehmed Ali Pasha

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Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Self nom at 18:57, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

  • Article must use English names (article names) of the towns and places. That must be fixed. --WhiteWriterspeaks 20:15, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Reviews should only be made by users without a COI i.e. your intervention to this review won't be taken into consideration by me, not to mention that your views have no policy basis. That being said, the names used throughout the article are those common in that era (see the Danzig-Gdansk issue) and those used by the respective organizations, thus Yakova (as that was the common and official name of the Ottoman era) and Gjakova Committee (as that was the name of League of Prizren committee). For similar reasons, Ferizovik (as opposed to Urosevac, a name imposed in 1913-99), Uskub (as opposed to Skopje, a named used after 1945) and Konstantiniyye (the official name of the Ottoman capital, as opposed to İstanbul, which became the official name in 1930). Take your issues to the talkpages, but keep them out of the DYK review as they have nothing to do with it.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 20:37, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Not to comment on your attitude, which is quite bad, but just to say. You are not right. All of those can (and should) stay, but you must add at least in the brackets current names of the locations, per WP:AT. That is highly desirable, and it will only help. Also, i cannot care less to review this, i just had to state article problems. --WhiteWriterspeaks 21:45, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
  • WP:AT is an article naming policy and the relevant articles are already linked, thus I won't overcomplicate the article with mentions that don't concern its subject in the least manner. Please take your issues to the talkpages, but keep them out of the DYK review as they have nothing to do with it. Bringing them to the DYK review and labeling them as something that "must be fixed" isn't prudent anywise. Given the finality of my comment on the issue, I'll collapse our discussion and let actual reviewing take place without irrelevances.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 23:53, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
  • No, you should not do that. I still disagree with that view, so we should see someone neutral's opinion. This question is essential for DYK review, as articles that goes on main page should follow wiki rules to the end. --WhiteWriterspeaks 17:14, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
  • The DYK criteria are required for all DYK nominations and as your views have nothing to with either the DYK criteria nor general policies, you're causing disruption. Take your issues to the talkpage and ask for a third opinion on your format concerns.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 00:05, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Wikipedia:Proper names#Place names states "Many place names have a historical context that should be preserved, but common sense should prevail. There can be few places that have not been parts of more than one culture or have had only one name. An article about Junipero Serra should say he lived in Alta Mexico not the U.S. state of California because the latter entity did not exist at the time of Junipero Serra. The Romans invaded Gaul, not France, and Thabo Mbeki was the president of the Republic of South Africa, not of the Cape Colony. To be clear, you may sometimes need to mention the current name of the area (for example "what is now France"), especially if no English name exists for that area in the relevant historical period." That implies to me that the way ZjarriRrethues has written things is fine. NW (Talk) 01:48, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
  • All looks fine from my perspective. NW (Talk) 01:48, 31 December 2012 (UTC)