- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Edge3 (talk) 02:04, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
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Ashley Jade
- ... that the singer Ashley-Jade Thewlis had a part in David Thewlis' film Cheeky? Source: https://www.rarefilmfinder.com/movie.php?id=17942
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Presidential immunity in the United States
- Comment: Previously deleted and recovered prior to expansion.
Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 11:25, 6 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ashley Jade; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: @Launchballer: I see this was deleted in 2018 has been outside of mainspace since that time, and that you expanded the recovered deleted version. I have some concerns, mainly that the citation seems a little weak and I don't think reliable enough for this purpose. I am trying to understand what makes this interesting - she was in a film? Are the two related? There doesn't seem to be an article for the film Cheeky and I wonder if it's noteworthy enough to allow for an interesting hook. Bungle (talk • contribs) 15:53, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Try this:
- ALT1 ... that before Ashley Jade entered the UK Top 40 as a singer, she had played the lead in the BAFTA Award for Best Short Film-winning About a Girl? --Launchballer 19:27, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I think ALT1 is better, as it at least has something relatable. She only just made it too by the looks of it! The sentence seems a little tongue-twisting towards the end though, so I may suggest perhaps:
- ALT2 ... that before Ashley Jade debuted on the UK Singles Chart, she had played the lead in the BAFTA Award-winning short film About a Girl?
- As the focus is not necessarily on the fact that it specifically won the short film award, I think we can shuffle it around a little so it flows better? The archive BBC reference supports her involvement in the film and her singles debut is officially recognised too. Bungle (talk • contribs) 21:31, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- QPQ done. Very happy with ALT2.--Launchballer 15:18, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
In which case I think that's fine for ALT2. I'd have liked to have seen a better citation for the birth year than a 2005 blog post, though a search seems to concur with the birth year none the less. As it's a BLP, it'd be good to get something firmer if possible. Bungle (talk • contribs) 17:13, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- IGN is listed as green on WP:RSP.--Launchballer 18:32, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- The casual nature of the post is less than ideal and a firmer citation would still be advantageous, but I can't see anything elsewhere that suggests it's wrong, hence it would be preferable to use something firmer, but I don't think for the purposes of this DYK it needs to be mandated. Bungle (talk • contribs) 18:47, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- IGN is listed as green on WP:RSP.--Launchballer 18:32, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- QPQ done. Very happy with ALT2.--Launchballer 15:18, 9 May 2023 (UTC)