Talk:Zygomatic process

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Klbrain in topic If at all, merge with "squamous part"

Zygomatic process(es) does not include zygomatic bone

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I don't think the initial presentation is correct, that there is a collective zygomatic process that includes the zygomatic bone and the 'zygomatic processes' of adjacent bones (temporal, maxilla, frontal) and structures (orbital) projecting and joining to the zygomatic bone. There is only the situation of a number of different zygomatic processes all qualified by the bone of which they are processes (just as listed in the article), and their attachment to the zygomatic bone. 142.68.161.187 (talk) 22:01, 23 February 2011 (UTC)Reply


I agree with the above. According to Marieb & Hoehn's (2010) Human Anatomy & Physiology[1], "The irregularly shaped zygomatic bones ... articulate with the zygomatic processes of the temporal bones posteriorly, the zygomatic process of the frontal bone superiorly, and with the zygomatic processes of the maxillae anteriorly." The zygomatic bone itself does not form part of the zygomatic process. 14.202.96.151 (talk) 12:42, 9 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

Agree, and given that there have been no objections over more than 6 years, I've edited the text to reflect this meaning Klbrain (talk) 21:19, 15 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ Marieb & Hoehn's (2010) Human Anatomy & Physiology

Proposed merge with Zygomatic process of frontal bone

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Pointlessly fragmented approach to a tiny structure that makes it very difficult for readers to understand. Readability would be enhanced by merging. Tom (LT) (talk) 06:40, 5 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

  • Support merge per previous. Far easier to understand the terminology if all the "zygomatic *" structures were shown and explained together in one place. yoyo (talk) 10:34, 17 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
Agreed and   Done Klbrain (talk) 21:35, 15 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

Merge processes

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Given that the case has been made to merge in the frontal process, the same argument holds for the processes of both the temporal and maxilla. Klbrain (talk) 21:50, 15 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

    Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 12:51, 3 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

If at all, merge with "squamous part"

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In non-human terms, the temporal arch consists of processes from the jugal ("zygomatic") bone and the squamosal bone; in various mammals, the squamosal has fused with several other bones (prootic, opisthotic...) and forms (in the adult anyway) the squamous part and the zygomatic process of the temporal bone.

Separate question: why do all these articles for skull bones pretend that only humans have them? David Marjanović (talk) 16:02, 25 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

I agree that lots of the articles on bones of the skull could/should have content from other species, indicating which species is being referred to. I suppose the current balance exists because of the specialisms of active editors and the early availability of text from Gray's Anatomy. Klbrain (talk) 12:57, 3 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Article merging

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There is a 2017 merge template on the article and other related stubs. I came to this through a twelve year old that liked the rotating skull on the Zygomatic process of maxilla. I transferred some of that material to this article and looking at the others since there was consensus to merge that has a career tag on them. Otr500 (talk) 13:15, 27 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Clarification needed

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The lead states Each Zygomatic process is the part of a bone which articulates with the zygomatic bone. The three processes are: 1)- Zygomatic process of frontal bone from the frontal bone, 2)- Zygomatic process of maxilla from the maxilla, 3)-Zygomatic process of temporal bone from the temporal bone.
The "Processes of the zygomatic bone" section state there are four process: frontosphenoidal, orbital, maxillary and temporal processes.
While this is likely common knowledge to a specialist I see it has been postulated the "Zygoma has not three but four processes" Google books: Oral and Maxillofacial Trauma (Chapter 16, part 3, pp. 356). The set index article Zygoma lists: "The zygomatic process, a bony protrusion of the human skull, mostly composed of the zygomatic bone but also contributed to by the frontal bone, temporal bone, and maxilla".
I understand there are many different "processes" but there can be less confusion. The temporal processes has the mastoid process but possibly the "Processes of the zygomatic bone" should be left out, otherwise referred to in another way, or worded differently to avoid confusion.
A "specialist" would likely have far better resources than Wikipedia, and I assume we are still interested in a "layman's" approach, so if someone can delve into this a little I would like to feel at least on the same level as the twelve year old that brought it up. Thanks, Otr500 (talk) 15:04, 27 August 2018 (UTC)Reply