meaning/explanation edit

Someone who is technical: Please add a less technical (more toward simpler English explanation) for each line. People newer to these things can learn a lot from this, but only if they know what it means. I personally was unable to find it translated to non-technical English 134.186.234.108 (talk) 21:07, 28 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

Redirect "import this" to here? edit

Hi. I thought that perhaps if someone searches for import this, that it should redirect to this. Not sure how that's done. MinorFixes (talk) 03:15, 9 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

-- Ok, I fig'ed it out. import this redirects to here. MinorFixes (talk) 03:19, 9 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Add numbers/ bullet points to the principles & Image size too big edit

1) I think the principles would be much easier to read, if they would have bullet points or numbering.

I added numbering, but it was reverted. Changing back and forth makes no sense, so I'd like to have a little dialogue. Reason for not using numbering was "They are not listed with numbers". If the list of principles is a quote, the article should say so. If it's not a quote the reasoning for not using numbers should be changed.

2) Change the image size might make the article more readable.

This is how the article looks on my screen:

               ______________________________________________
   Beautiful  |                                              |
   is         |                                              |
   better     |                                              |
   then       |                                              |
   ugly.      |                                              |
   Explicit   |                                              |
   is         |             Image                            |
   better     |                                              |
   than       |                                              |
   implicit.  |                                              |
   Simple     |                                              |
   is         |                                              |
   better     |                                              |
   than       |                                              |
   complex.   |                                              |


I changed it, but the change was reverted. For the same reason as above, I'd like to have a little dialogue on that. I'd like to note, that not everyone has a big screen or high DPI. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BookRings (talkcontribs) 11:35, 27 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

Not the original editor who reverted you, but I implemented the second change you suggested, as it's a good idea and the image just repeats the text to the left. As for the first suggestion, while we shouldn't slavishly reproduce facsimiles, we also shouldn't add new elements. Numbering might make people think it's a list of precepts, such that you could refer to them like "Zen #5". However, I wouldn't be opposed to a bulleted list being used. Let's see if anyone has any other input on that though. Opencooper (talk) 19:51, 27 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
I'd prefer the content to resemble the original output, which does not have bullet points or numbers. Perhaps the image should go elsewhere altogether, let me take a look. +mt 03:23, 28 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
The hanging indents is a brilliant solution, preserving the original formatting and allowing readability at narrower widths. I'm amazed that the <poem> CSS doesn't already include such functionality. Moving the image up also works and was something I considered since it still interfered with the list on smaller viewports. Opencooper (talk) 05:42, 28 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
I personally prefer bullet points for a list of entries, but that's probably a very personal taste. I think the current version looks much better than before (tabs + image on different location). Do we remove this part here from the talk section? BookRings (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:32, 2 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
No, leave the discussion here. It's a good record should the issue ever come up again. peterl (talk) 18:09, 2 April 2020 (UTC)Reply