Talk:Yellowjackets (band)

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Crouch, Swale in topic Redirect target

Requested move 16 January 2022

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 06:24, 24 January 2022 (UTC)Reply


YellowjacketsYellowjackets (band) – This band is not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the term. "Yellowjackets" should redirect to Yellowjacket (disambiguation) – Muboshgu (talk) 17:34, 16 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

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@Andrewa: Thank you for closing the RM. Many readers searching for Yellowjackets will be seeking Yellowjackets (TV series), which is currently Wikipedia's 34th most-read article. Should the redirect be retargeted to Yellowjacket (disambiguation), or do you see a consensus that the plural of the wasp is a primary topic? Certes (talk) 13:02, 24 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Agree, it would be best to have no primary topic, many editors supported but reasonable points were made like views that there is no primary topic so based on this we could say there's a reasonably clear consensus the band isn't primary but no clear consensus on if the insect is. Also I'd say the same about Street Lights, was there consensus the generic meaning is primary for the capitalized form? Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:09, 24 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
I don't think the RM resolved all of this, and admit I have left some loose ends. In hindsight it might have been better for me to weigh in as a participant rather than close the RM. I tend towards disambiguation when in doubt, but that's not as well supported by current Wikipedia policy and practice as I would like! My reasoning is that this serves the readers best, I do not think any reader on any device is disadvantaged by seeing a DAB and knowing that one click will then take them to the article they want, in fact in some cases the DAB is exactly what they want as they are wondering what the term means. Of course if that is all they want to know they are in the wrong place, but having found out what it means most will then go to the appropriate article to find out more, so they are in the right place after all and we have helped them most efficiently.
So far as capitalization goes, in this case I think it's a small detail and should be used with caution as a disambiguator, but it can be used. Andrewa (talk) 17:55, 24 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
In terms of SMALLDETAILS I'd suggesting Street Lights goes to Street light (disambiguation) since while I agree its not sufficient disambiguation to have the song as primary, its unlikely the generic meaning is primary so having a DAB serves the reader better since many people typing the capital "S" will want a proper noun and those that don't still have the 1st lick to get to the generic meaning. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:04, 24 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
Should we invite a wider audience to the Yellowjackets discussion at RfD? As for WP:DIFFCAPS, Yellow Jacket and Yellow Jackets redirect to the wasp, but probably shouldn't as the only meanings with that capitalisation are on the dab. Certes (talk) 18:23, 24 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
If there isn't an agreement here then yes but I'd wait to see if we get an agreement here first. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:25, 24 January 2022 (UTC)Reply