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Editing error
editI'm not sure what happened but I think my browser stuffed up with a maximum text box size so now the article is cut off. Someone please revert it. Deonyi (talk) 12:52, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- I've fixed it;nevermind.
Neutrality
editThe neutrality of this article is highly suspect. I've removed some superfluous adjectives and sections that over-emphasise minor points with excess elaboration. For example, there is no need to devote three sentences on a single candidate's public support, nor a paragraph on the party's anti-Sharia court stance with contrast. This all contributes to a highly negative tone towards the party. I do hope that other editors will try and promote a more neutral point of view. Deonyi (talk) 13:16, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not opposed to some of these edits, but they really need to be discussed and reworked bit by bit. The article could do with substantial improvement in both sourcing and prose; however, the ALA is the most far-right party in Australian politics - so much so that even the Liberal Party preferences them last - and it's not okay to selectively omit reliably-sourced information to downplay that. The Drover's Wife (talk) 02:20, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- As mentioned, the ALA are an extreme party and have been preferenced last by all major parties and most of the minor ones. Their stance against Islam is well noted and is their main focus and have been embraced by Islamophobes around the world. Yemini is their lead candidate in the election and has a significant following. Playlet (talk) 00:24, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- Just to back up the other statements: I've never heard them described as anything but far-right and anti-islam. They are demonstrably firmly on the far-right and they are regularly reported to be far-right by mainstream news outlets. Bacondrum (talk) 03:17, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
Page move to Yellow Vest Australia?
editThe ALA has renamed itself to Yellow Vest Australia. This was recently approved by the Australian Electoral Commission.[1] Given this change I believe it as appropriate to move the page but will wait 24 hours for input before I plan to do it myself. Thanks, trainsandtech (talk) 08:36, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
References
- ^ https://www.australianlibertyalliance.org.au/blog/yesterday-the-australian-electoral-commission.html.
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Part of a series on Islamaphobia
editThe party is beyond any doubt extremely critical of Islam but to gauge this as a phobia or fear of Muslims comparable to xenophobia as opposed to a criticism of the ideology (or vice-versa) seems to edge on a potential dispute. Also there's the fact that "Anti-Islam" in the infobox links to Islamaphobia while there is also an article on Criticism of Islam. Neither of these things I intend to change and may very well be entirely fit for purpose but I would appreciate input from other editors, if possible. trainsandtech (talk) 07:14, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- YVA is the political arm of the Q-Society, an explicitly Islamophobic and Homophobic organisation. Islam critical may not be Islamophobic per se (though undue criticism certainly smells like Islamophobia), but being anti-Islam certainly is, just like being anti-gay is homophobic. Plenty of articles refer to them as such, in-fact pretty much every article. Many also explicitly refer to them as Islamophobic and they referred to as such and are noted in many studies of Islamophobia in Australia:
Small selection of article found in a 5 second google search:
- https://theconversation.com/the-australian-liberty-alliance-and-the-politics-of-islamophobia-24225
- https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/dec/09/cory-bernardi-and-george-christensen-to-raise-funds-for-anti-islam-group
- https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/farrightwing-parties-after-your-vote-on-election-day/news-story/dea024a911e4e5bf2d8d6bb6fbd1f0b0
- https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-21/australian-liberty-alliance-candidates-unveiled-amid-racism-fear/6874336
- https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/immigration/bernardi-christensen-fight-for-antiislam-society/news-story/8a6690ff9483b1cb2f90275c18fe730b
- https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australian-liberty-alliance-the-antiislam-donald-trumpstyle-party-claims-major-growth-20160406-go08lq.html
- https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2017/02/25/inside-the-sick-sad-world-the-q-society-and-the-australian-liberty-alliance
- https://themusic.com.au/article/o7-0t7a5uLs/angry-anderson-is-an-official-senate-candidate-for-anti-islam-liberty-alliance
- https://www.news.com.au/national/is-the-australian-liberty-alliance-the-next-one-nation/news-story/fa811244146b3c59f15086510267ce3a
- https://www.sbs.com.au/news/q-society-australian-liberty-alliance-campaigner-apologise-to-halal-director
- https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australian-liberty-alliance-the-antiislam-donald-trumpstyle-party-claims-major-growth-20160406-go08lq.html
- https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/retail/antiislam-group-ambushes-shopping-centre-santa-display-singing-islamophobic-christmas-carols/news-story/18670de17151e0a3c084952fcc1e40f2
- https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/antimuslim-agenda-in-media-and-rallies-drags-discourse-to-the-political-right-20160610-gpgbxt.htmlhttps://www.sbs.com.au/news/australia-s-muslims-being-demonised-islamic-council-leader-says
And a Deakin University academic paper: https://www.deakin.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/1075164/Islamophobia.pdf
Hope that allays your concerns, if not let me know and I'll do a proper search, I'm sure there's plenty more. Bacondrum (talk) 08:02, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Page Name change back to Australian Liberty Alliance
editI am just thinking this page name should be changed back to Australian Liberty Alliance. 1 The party was known as the Australian Liberty Alliance (2015–2019), 2 its mostly known as Australian Liberty Alliance. It was only Yellow Vest Australia for 1 year until it folded. So I'm thinking the name should be changed back.Muaza Husni (talk) 04:41, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- I agree per WP:COMMONNAME. TarnishedPathtalk 12:42, 19 May 2024 (UTC)