Talk:Xiaotian Quan

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The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by AirshipJungleman29 talk 10:06, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

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A shadow puppet depicting Xiaotian Quan and his lord Erlang Shen.

• ... that Xiaotian Quan (pictured), the loyal canine companion of the deity Erlang Shen, is worshipped as the protector of pets? Source: Yifang, Lian (8 November 2019). "寵物開刀別擔心！到廟裡找哮天犬求平安". Now News (in Chinese).
  • ALT1: ... that the Tibetan Mastiff breed is believed to be descended from the celestial dog Xiaotian Quan (pictured)? Source: "哮天犬食日天狗 二郎神神獸 - 大公報". Hong Kong Ta Kung Wen Wei Media Group (in Chinese). 29 September 2009.
  • ALT2: ... that the proverb "to bite the hand that feeds you" is believed to have originated from a story about Xiaotian Quan (pictured) and Lü Dongbin, one of the Eight Immortals? Source: 台灣俗語諺語辭典(精) (in Chinese). 五南圖書出版股份有限公司. 1 July 2022. ISBN 978-626-317-913-4.
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Created by TheGreatPeng (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

TheGreatPeng (talk) 12:36, 17 May 2024 (UTC).

• Article is new enough, more than long enough, and very well sourced. Hook is interesting and well-sourced, with a minor problem: while the source is Taiwanese, the article does not actually state that the worship actually takes place in Taiwan. Maybe just drop "in Taiwan", especially since the article mentions other countries like Malaysia as well? ALT1 is a bit dull, ALT2 is otherwise OK but "is said to have" is a bit weak. The image would otherwise be good, but it's a bit muddy/unclear and the dog is barely visible. (Not a blocker though, the image is optional anyway). Jpatokal (talk) 23:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
  • @TheGreatPeng: Jpatokal (talk) 23:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
    • @Jpatokal:, Thank you for noticing. These days, I have returned to the U.S. and have had no time to edit on Wikipedia. Please pardon me. I have now fixed the issues you requested. Thanks. TheGreatPeng (talk) 06:46, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
      • Thanks, but I'm not actually seeing any changes...? Jpatokal (talk) 12:04, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
        • I just removed "in Taiwan". TheGreatPeng (talk) 12:28, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
          • Looks good, ship it! Although I don't think the image will work in its current form. Jpatokal (talk) 11:27, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
    • Thank you so much. I already fixed image blur and color tone. TheGreatPeng (talk) 13:37, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
• Request' - Hi, DYK promoter, As a newbie, I have made 4 or 5 DYK articles, but none of them were chosen with a photo. So if possible, please promote this DYK with an image. Thanks TheGreatPeng (talk) 13:40, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
  • @TheGreatPeng and Jpatokal: the article contains significant WP:PLAGIARISM of non-English copyrighted sources, breaking WP:NONENGPLAG. For example, the paragraphs beginning "According to folklore..." and "There is also a legend..." are functionally identical to direct translations of the cited sources. The article needs significant rewriting, or this nomination will be rejected. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:53, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
• Now I have an exam and pls wait . Thanks TheGreatPeng (talk) 06:39, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

• @TheGreatPeng: Can we can an update on when you will work on this? Z1720 (talk) 15:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  • It has been over two weeks without action. I am rejecting this nomination. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:06, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

WP:PLAGIARISM

@AirshipJungleman29, I have fixed the issues as you noted in the edit summary like "not fixed, see e.g. the "Proverb" section". If you find any instances of close paraphrasing remaining in the article, please point them out here. I will address them promptly. Thank you. TheGreatPeng (talk) 09:50, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

• "I have fixed the issues" really? Why don't you take the time to go through the article and find them for yourself? I count three paragraphs, there could very well be more. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

  If you have eyes, you can see clearly. Pls show me with compare dashboard. TheGreatPeng (talk) 15:43, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Article	Source, trans. Google Translate
...after the war, everyone was granted titles by the Jade Emperor, except for Xiaotian Quan. Feeling wronged, Xiaotian Quan swallowed the sun and moon in two bites... The Jade Emperor sent someone to investigate and discovered it was Xiaotian Quan. He then ordered Erlang Shen to capture the dog and bring him back to be punished.	...after the war was over, everyone was granted official status by the Jade Emperor, but Xiaotian Quan did not. He was so angry that he swallowed the son and moon in two mouthfuls...The Jade Emperor sent people to investigate and discovered it was Xiaotian Quan, so he asked Erlang Shen to catch the dog and punish him.

Since you wrote the article, you are perfectly able to do the comparison yourself. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:57, 2 July 2024 (UTC)