Talk:Xbox 360 controller

Merger proposal

I propose that Xbox 360 Controller be merged with Xbox Controller. It would make sense to have each iteration of the Xbox controller share a page, using the DualShock page as a model on how to show multiple generations of a controller. --Eptin (talk) 23:50, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

• Support - This would also add in the Xbox 180 controller as well I imagine.--SexyKick 03:14, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose - The rationale is understandable, but DualShock controllers have been presented to consumers as a series, whereas the Xbox controller and Xbox 360 controller have not. --Teancum (talk) 17:05, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

But, the Xbox and Xbox S controllers were, and the Xbox 360 controller was also at one point called the Xbox X controller, and even if it wasn't, it's clear that its design is part of a series. (from my perspective, at least)--SexyKick 17:47, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Well, here's the link that made me think that anyway.--SexyKick 17:49, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

That article says "for lack of a better name", meaning IGN nicknamed it 'Controller X'. It didn't stick. --Teancum (talk) 11:11, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

• Support - They're all Xbox controllers. Otherwise the current Xbox Controller article kind of has the question of WP:Notability.--69.249.202.254 (talk) 13:59, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

• How so? The Xbox Controller article is reliably sourced from IGN, Game Informer, and Official Xbox Magazine. I don't see any notability issues. If anything all it could use is expansion if there is content to do so. --Teancum (talk) 11:24, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

• Oppose Xbox 360 controller should not be merged with a different controller (xbox controllers do not work on Xbox 360 controllers) and it is called xbox 360 controllers for a reason. --Pretty les♀♥, Dark Mistress, talk, 13:59, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

• That's another good point. Older controllers in the DualShock series are forwards compatible. None of the Xbox controllers are. --Teancum (talk) 15:12, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Oppose If this was just a stub or something, I could see consolidating as being worthwhile, but this article is long enough on its own, that I can only imagine that eventually merging the topics would either result in a too long article, or too much good information being removed. I don't think "because we did it with Sony" is a compelling reason for such a change, either. I don't know why it was done with Sony, maybe it made sense there, but I just don't see any reason here to merge.76.226.205.15 (talk) 00:00, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Oppose The Xbox controller and the Xbox 360 controller may seem similar but game play wise are different controllers. The dualshock on the other hand has relied on its familiarity as a key selling point. Also it is highly worthy of note that unlike the other controllers (Xbox and dualshock) the 360 controller is also has a huge share in the PC world as well becoming the de facto controller used by game developers for PC demonstration, which i believe this article mentions. 65.245.102.10 (talk) 14:54, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Oppose Although they seem similar, they're not compatible so the differences will compound over time, making it difficult to find relevant information if they're merged. —Pengo 14:33, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

• Support – After thorough consideration I have decided to support this. Even though they are not compatible between generations and as consciously marketed as the Dual Shock series, the Xbox controllers still have a distinct relationship and lineage. Yes, I'm late, but whatever. Mango från yttre rymden (talk) 23:25, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Suggestions for improvement

please post images of all color varients listed.

how should third-party products be listed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.152.249.245 (talk) 22:31, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

please add info on rumble packs. Came here looking for info about them, and found nothing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.40.180.206 (talk) 11:13, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Please add a reference to the 'inline cable release' feature of Wired Xbox 360 pads. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907634 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.128.237.170 (talk) 10:40, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

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Connector at the bottom

Can someone provide info on what type of connector that is and what kind of devices plug into it? Ham Pastrami (talk) 21:13, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Wireless Controllers for Windows

I can confirm that at the very least the Rockband 2 wireless controller will work in Windows using the XBox controller for Windows adapter. I've used it to play Frets on Fire. Braedley (talk) 16:53, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Typo in charge paragraph

I don't know if it's okay for me to just edit, I'm kind of a Wiki newbie, so I'll just put it here and assume someone will see it some day.

" therefore negating it's purpose." -- it's is strictly for use in the contraction 'it is' or 'it has'. The proper word would be "its." Myndaen (talk) 01:21, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Compatible with Xbox?

I don't have an Xbox 360. But I do have an Xbox. So is this compatible with mine(wow I sound like an idiot with these short sentences).Mchcopl (talk) 23:08, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Short answer: no

Long answer: There is no way for the original Xbox to connect to the controller - the original Xbox has a propriatary controller port wich uses a custom USB protocol. The wired 360 controller uses a DIFFERENT custom USB protocol - XInput. The wireless one uses the same protocol (XInput) over propriatary wireless tech.Alphathon^TM (talk) 10:27, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

No. BEcause I once bought a controller and it was wireless and it had360 on the cover and it worked. But it didnt have that buttin thingy in the middle. So I was kinda askin wat kind of controllers work. and this is mchcopl but i don't feel like signing in!68.49.223.192 (talk) 13:49, 26 February 2010 (UTC)!!

Accessories transfer to "Xbox 360 Accessories"

Hi all. I've been thinking; why is the chatpad, wireless receiver etc listed here more prominently than in Xbox 360 Accessories? To me it would make sense to transfer the info for all the accessories to the accessories page, and maybe have a short paragraph on this one linking to them. It sort of makes sense to have the battery packs here, but would still be better in the accessories article. I therefore suggest that we merge the accessories section into Xbox 360 accessories. Alphathon^TM (talk) 20:29, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Screwdriver

there should be a section on how to take apart and fix the controller and what it is like inside. Also a good section on what type of screwdriver to use.68.238.72.122 (talk) 20:41, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not an instructional manual (see: WP:NOTHOWTO), so that wouldn't really be appropriate. Info about the actual mechanisms etc may be notable but probably not, in the same way as the hex-code for the colours used wouldn't be, or whatever. By the way, if you brought it up because you're looking for said info, Google is your friend, but the screwdriver you need is a T9 security bit (a standard T9 will work too, but you have to snap off the security bump things). Alphathon™ (talk) 21:08, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Slot

What is that slot in the back for? Also, how does that "transforming controller" work? Tad Lincoln (talk) 21:30, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

At present, the only use fir the "slot" is the play & charge kit. Basically it's a glorified USB/power connector.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "how does that "transforming controller" work?" Do you mean the internal mechanism?

Alphathon /'æl.f'æ.θɒn/ ^(talk) 01:23, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Battery contact

xbox 360 controllers need copper instead of metal contact clips for its contact with the controller because batteries nver contact and they are in different shapes and sizes in the industry. Aesthetically it would not work, unless the controller was black so technically it would work for the xbox 360 se. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.255.25.193 (talk) 02:54, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I am responding to your advice for the article. Yes, you are correct...we are aware the wireless batteries of xbox 360 by Microsoft corporation, and playstation controllers by sony do not have strong contact. However, you can alleviate a weak charge by finding the pos and neg pts with a volt meter on the 360 controller (second pin on right and left side), then you tape and rubberband the neg pt to a standard 12 volt battery. You need to put the negative point of a 12 volt fan to the neg point of the 12 volt battery. Then you put the posi point of a 12 volt fan to the neg point of the lithium charger pack. Finally, you need to put the posi point of your lithium pack via a basic copper wire to the positive point of the 12 volt battery. Wait a few hours and you have your xbox 360 recharged correctly (quick directions: neg fan goes to neg battery, pos fan goes to neg lithium pack, pos lithium pack goes to pos battery, hold wires with rubberband, tape..wait a half-hour to a few hours to even a few days..it doesn't matter, battery is fully recharged). materials: power-meter, tape, rubberband to hold wire to pts, 12 volt battery, standard 12 volt fan that runs on battery, copper wire, wire stripper). This only works with Xbox brand controllers because they have detachable batteries. This is important because the industry doesn't have rechargers for lithium battery packs that recharge fully to my knowledge, or for batteries in that regard...and 12 volt batteries are fairly common. This method of recharging batteries recharges cellphones, all-sized lead acid batteries, and any battery with a positive and negative signal, however the battery will leak after 24 hours..to prevent this just knot a coil with copper wire then loop it through the 4 or 5 turns (from the positive of the battery to the pos of the recharging battery), this will act as a transformer and will keep the battery charged and fan going forever. If you want your 12volt recharged while doing the process, add a capacitor going into the neg dc or as an input. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asfd666 (talk • contribs) 03:45, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Controller modification

So as to avoid an edit war, here is a more detailed reason why the "modification" section is inappropriate.

1. Cosmetic modification of controllers has little bearing on the controller itself. People will always modify things in this way, and the fact it is done to the controllers is pretty much irrelevant. A cursory mention of specific products used for modification (such as XCMs custom shells) may deserve a cursory mention but nothing more (and even that's dubious).
2. Modification of the circuitry/mechanisms of the controller may be relevant if the content is properly sourced to reputable, third-party sources. However, care must be taken to ensure it applies to this article. For example, if cited to an article about Live bans, that would justify its addition to Xbox Live, but not here. Also, like the cosmetic mods, hardware mods are something people will always do and isn't notable in itself.

If it makes it any clearer, adding this in is equivalent to discussing how some people fit custom speakers or get custom paint jobs in the article for a particular model of car; it is irrelevant and unencyclopædic. If there were any particular reason to mention it (e.g. a car model is popular with modding communities due to how it is constructed or its price or whatever) then that'd be a different matter, but AFAIK there is no such reason to justify this being in here. . Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ ^(talk) 20:49, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Wireless battery packs manufactured faulty or wrong

The battery packs are broken. They are built wrong, except i fixed this solution by taping a thin small strip of electrical tape around the usb pin connecter and removing the yellow plastic (optional). There you have it, no more buying replacement recharble batteries. The electrical input travels to the end of the cord and the tape holds it in the input slot so it never slides out or gives a bad signal. Now your controller acts as a common cord one.

Also masking the tape around the fat bendable portion of the pin's plastic(not skinny because it will choke the electrical signal) so the corner (elastic elbow) doesn't bend also helps much. This alone stops the sliding of the pin or bad signal contact when the rechargeable is worn. Of course i took it a step further, opened and twined the positve neg usb wires because of a faulty connection within the device. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asfd666 (talk • contribs) 07:17, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

What? Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ ^(talk) 13:31, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Digital button techology?

I can't seem to find any information of what type of switches is used. I would guess the majority is Rubber Dome switches? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unifoe (talk • contribs) 14:57, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Lowercase the "C" in "Controller" in the article's title

The title of this article, "Xbox 360 Controller", contains an error. It should have been "Xbox 360 controller" (we need to lowercase the capital C). Otherwise, is the name of the controller entirely a proper noun? Gamingforfun³⁶⁵ (talk) 22:48, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

You're right; it should be moved. Usually you do this by adding {{db-move}} to the target page if you can't move the page yourself, but I'll go ahead and move it now. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 23:46, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

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