Talk:World Trade Center station (PATH)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: AmericanAir88 (talk · contribs) 13:33, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

I apologize for you having to wait this long for this GA review. 5 months is a while. I will start this very soon, I just have to finish up with another review so I can focus solely on this. AmericanAir88 (talk) 13:33, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Issues

@Epicgenius:

• "The station opened on July 19, 1909, as Hudson Terminal. As part of the construction of the World Trade Center, it was torn down, rebuilt as World Trade Center, and re-opened on July 6, 1971." Very Choppy Sentences
  • I provided some context. epicgenius (talk) 19:53, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
• In the lead you go straight from the temporary station to the Oculus opening. Any thing big happen in between? Construction?
  • I provided more context here as well. epicgenius (talk) 19:53, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
• The lead should include the transfer stations such as Cortlandt or Park place and explain connections.
  • Done.
• You say on the map that the one does not stop here but it will soon, so instead of saying that how about something along the lines of "under construction". It is confusing how the platforms say construction while the 1 line says "Does not stop"
  • Yes, both are correct. The trains literally don't stop here, and the platforms are under construction. It would be incorrect to state that the 1 train is "under construction"; although the station is not open, the line is in operation. See, for instance, 163rd Street–Amsterdam Avenue (IND Eighth Avenue Line) and Cathedral Parkway–110th Street (IND Eighth Avenue Line). epicgenius (talk) 19:53, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
• "The terminal was an architectural and engineering marvel of its time" According to whom? It seems opinionated.
  • I removed the opinionated phrasing. epicgenius (talk) 19:53, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
• "Toward the end of 1961, negotiations with outgoing New Jersey Governor Robert B. Meyner regarding the World Trade Center project reached a stalemate. " Why a stalemate? Anything go on during the stalemate?
  • Since they disagreed and couldn't come to a compromise. Since it's a stalemate, by definition nothing happened. epicgenius (talk) 19:53, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
• The September 11th paragraph in "Original PATH station" should have links with the flight numbers for example instead of "first airplane", have "American Airlines flight 11" as the link.
  • Done.
• What happened when United Flight 175 hit the south tower? You only have info on the first tower flight.
  • The station was destroyed when the towers collapsed, not when the planes collided in the towers. I clarified this. epicgenius (talk) 19:53, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
• The quotes in "Redesign" are quite lengthy. Any chance you can paraphrase or take thoughts from them?
  • Done.
• The west concourse section could use some expansion and updating.
  • There's really not much to update/describe. It's separate from the main Oculus building, located under the east side of Greenwich Street, in that the passageway extends westward from the PATH station under Greenwich Street. It also contains a couple shops, and I think there was also some talk about this concourse being really expensive. epicgenius (talk) 19:53, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
  • I have added some information. epicgenius (talk) 20:09, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
• Why are the birth and death in "Opening"? Own section?
  • I split into an "Incidents" section. epicgenius (talk) 19:53, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
• "A proposal for a connection to the Long Island Rail Road and John F. Kennedy International Airport via a new tunnel under the East River, the Lower Manhattan–Jamaica/JFK Transportation Project, was studied starting in 2004, but as of 2009 was a lower priority than other projects competing for funding." Please update
  • Done.
• Any more news on the 1 Line station?
  • It is on schedule to open in October of this year. Reliable sources don't really say more than that. epicgenius (talk) 19:53, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

AmericanAir88 (talk) 14:36, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Issues 2

@Epicgenius: Excellent job as usual on the first set of issues. Just a couple more

• The end of the lead talks about only criticism. I think talking about praise in the same section will be much more neutral. Plus, the station has various benefits.
• I get what you are saying about the 1 line not saying "under construction". How about "Currently does not stop here" for the 1 line on the chart?

AmericanAir88 (talk) 23:51, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll address these on Sunday, as I will not be available tomorrow. epicgenius (talk) 03:02, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

@AmericanAir88: I added another detail to the lead that states that the hub has also received praise. The platform layout was harder, since the source code is at Template:NYCS Platform Layout Cortlandt Street Station, which is also transcluded on two other pages. I edited the template so that I could add a footnote that the Cortlandt Street station will reopen in October. epicgenius (talk) 03:36, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: Thank you. I will look back at the article for final glances soon. I am going through some trouble right now with a user out to get me and trying to delete me from reviewing AFCs after a mistake I made. I am sorry if there is a delay in final checks. AmericanAir88 (talk) 03:47, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: There will probably be a delay until tomorrow. I want to put all my attention on the review and not having it be a rushed thing while I deal with the trouble. Thank you so much for your patience and cooperation. AmericanAir88 (talk) 03:50, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: Passing. Excellent work as always. AmericanAir88 (talk) 00:31, 8 July 2018 (UTC)