Talk:Windows Me/Archive 2
Latest comment: 4 years ago by Ken choo in topic 20 years Windows me was released to manufacturing
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Requested move 3 May 2019
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The result of the move request was: moved. There is a definite consensus for this requested move. (closed by non-admin page mover) qedk (t 桜 c) 17:00, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Windows ME → Windows Me – Not only does Microsoft itself use an uncapitalized E, I looked over the References, and practically all of them refer to the OS as Windows Me. See: TechTV, SuperSite for Windows, Activewin.com, The Register, TechRepublic, PC World 1, PC World 2. That's almost all the third-party sources in this article with the one exception of PCMag who uses the ME capitalization. Aren't we supposed to use the most common name? It seems clear to me that Me is the more common version of the name. Sek-2 (talk) 19:30, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Support move per nom. Most sources leave the e uncapitalized. O.N.R. (talk) 22:30, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Support - it was called Me in writing and was pronounced Me. Even the logo clearly says Me. ME is just what us consumers like to call it, but we have to stay encyclopedic so yeah.—Mythdon (talk • contribs) 00:13, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Support as the logo is more than sufficient in itself - Microsoft branded it "Me" and there can't be any dispute or disagreement. Bungle (talk • contribs) 18:33, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Support but reject the above votes that are WP:OR basing themselves on interpretation of a logo. Google Ngrams shows to me convincing proof of its WP:COMMONNAME. -- Netoholic @ 20:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Netoholic: From WP:OR: The phrase "original research" (OR) is used on Wikipedia to refer to material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published sources exist: how is an official logo not reliable or published? I feel you have greatly misinterpreted the meaning of "original research" in a manner wholly unnecessary given your otherwise agreeable stance to the fundamental question. I don't appreciate my vote being discounted and categorised in this manner. Perhaps ironically, I don't think "Me" should be the correct branded variant, but am more than prepared to accept it on the basis of it being officially branded as such. Bungle (talk • contribs) 22:13, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Look at the arguments above - they aren't saying "xxxxxxx source says that the logo represents 'Me' over 'ME'". These Wikipedians are themselves interpreting a logo and stylization, and from that extrapolating. Such a thing is against WP:TITLES policy. --Netoholic @ 02:05, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think an academic-esque explanation is necessary when citing the logo - the officially designated branding of a product by the developer. The logo also happens to be used in the same manner on the brand packaging, which replicates the styling as seen in the logo (as it's essentially the logo on the box). I happen to disagree with you on "OR", though as we both find ourselves in ultimate agreement on the proposal, I don't think we need to go further. Bungle (talk • contribs) 08:17, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Look at the arguments above - they aren't saying "xxxxxxx source says that the logo represents 'Me' over 'ME'". These Wikipedians are themselves interpreting a logo and stylization, and from that extrapolating. Such a thing is against WP:TITLES policy. --Netoholic @ 02:05, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Netoholic: From WP:OR: The phrase "original research" (OR) is used on Wikipedia to refer to material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published sources exist: how is an official logo not reliable or published? I feel you have greatly misinterpreted the meaning of "original research" in a manner wholly unnecessary given your otherwise agreeable stance to the fundamental question. I don't appreciate my vote being discounted and categorised in this manner. Perhaps ironically, I don't think "Me" should be the correct branded variant, but am more than prepared to accept it on the basis of it being officially branded as such. Bungle (talk • contribs) 22:13, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Comment. Netoholic is correct here. We use WP:COMMONNAME to determine titles, not the official name. That's why it was moved here in the first place and a move to proposed title was later rejected. Calidum 13:12, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Previous move requests aren't necessarily right or wrong, but a reflection of opinion from those who chose to express at the time. Maybe a rename instead to Windows Millennium Edition would be another option as that would bypass any issues with the acronym? Bungle (talk • contribs) 13:32, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- I don't really have an opinion either way at this time. I was just pointing out that common name should take precedent over the logo and/or official name. Calidum 04:05, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- Previous move requests aren't necessarily right or wrong, but a reflection of opinion from those who chose to express at the time. Maybe a rename instead to Windows Millennium Edition would be another option as that would bypass any issues with the acronym? Bungle (talk • contribs) 13:32, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose. "ME" is an acronym for "Millennium Edition"; "Me" is a marketing stylization. Both "ME" and "Me" are commonly used in sources. How Microsoft markets the software is less relevant than our MOS:TM guidelines. feminist (talk) 08:17, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Weak Support - I don't care all too much, but Windows Me is more common than Windows ME, hence the status. AwesumIndustrys (talk) 19:24, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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20 years Windows me was released to manufacturing
Someone need to change it to 20 years for the release to manufacturing. Ken choo (talk) 03:43, 17 August 2019 (UTC)