Talk:WinRed

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- there was tension within both the Democratic and Republican parties in the week prior to the article publication (on 16 July 2019)

- RNC leaders forced state and local members on the fundraising issue

- local and state Republicans are pushing back

- RCP interviewed >12 state party officials, campaign operatives, and fundraisers

- interviewees described the consolidation effort as "Obamacare for GOP fundraising" and "crony capitalism"

- operatives spoke anonymously due to threats and legal action

- An RNC meeting at the end of July was planned to figure things out

- the RNC asked people to use WinRed

- WinRed was Trump-endorsed

- the party argued that WinRed would allow the party to compete on small-donors with ActBlue

- The push was led by Brad Parscale, Trump's digital media director for both campaigns

- ActBlue was used by >14500 candidates as of article publishing

- In 2018, ActBlue helped raise $700 million

- Indiana Mayor Pete Bittigieg and Senator Kamala Harris used Actblue in the 2017 Democratic primary

- the RNC argues that by melding a consolidated fundraising platform with the GOP's voter data repository, Data Trust, they can target folks better

- political operatives guard their donor lists carefully

- the GOP built Anedot a while ago as a separate online fundraising tool

- 45/50 state parties, 111 House incumbent campaigns, and 22 incumbent Senate campaigns used it as of 2018

- Revv was a precursor to WinRed

- Revv was funded by Gerrit Lansing

- Revv says theyhad 150 Congress member as of a few weeks before WinRed's launch, as well as state parties, PACs, and governors

- Revv had the RNC itself, the Trump campaign, and other party committees as clients in 2016

- Revv raised $650 million in 2016, but only $176 during the 2018 midterms

- most of Revv's fundraising in 2018 was generated by the Trump campaign and the RNC

- Anedot processed $300 million in 2018 and was the top GOP tool

- WinRed is built to aid downticket candidates

- WinRed relies on maximal participation

- the RNC sent a soft-sell memo for WinRed on July 8

- one day after the soft-sell, the RNC said it would withhold national investments and data if candidates and parties didn't join WinRed

- GOP chiefs also offered $20-30k discounts in party dues for use of WinRed by campaigns

- Paul Dietzel, the Republican strategist and Anedot person, was sent a cease-and-disist by the RNC, the Republican Senatorial Committee, and the Republican Governors Association

- Give.GOP is also a competitor.

- Give.GOP a much lower fee than WinRed's 3.8%

- Anedot was criticized by Mike Reed, the RNC spokesman

- The DNC did not force everyone to use ActBlue

- WinRed uses Stripe, which is liberal-leaning

- The Daily Caller criticized the use of Stripe for its restrictions to people based on political speech and based on the relationship with Saikat Chakrabarti, a chief of staff to AOC

- there is concern that Stripe or other partners could access GOP donor data

- Republican critics don't want a unified platform by the GOP based on free market ideas

- Republicans worried about the profit motive

- the Trump campaign said that no part of the Trump campaign financially benefited from WinRed

- Lansing has a 60% stake in WinRed

- Data Trust has a 40% stake

- Data Trust puts all profits into building its data repository

- Data Trust is used for Republican micro-targeting

- Data Trust is more advanced than Democrat tools

- Lansing got $1 million in 2016 from his digital fundraising tools

- Lansing pushed Republicans to use Revv, which he had co-founded, and he made money on it, according to a 2017 Politico story

- Sean Spicer misrepresented Lansing's role for Revv

- Lansing was briefly a White House aid, but because he was unwilling to end financial ties to Revv based on ethics rules, he left the White House

- Anedot and Give.GOP offer better rates

Jlevi (talk) 01:21, 26 March 2020 (UTC)Reply


- WinRed raised >$30 million in the three months since launch

- Rep party officials said the high fundraising had to due with impeachment

- Gerrit Lansing agreed with the statement about impeachment

- Since Pelosi's impeachment announcement (as of article publishing), WinRed had raised $13.7 million from 276000 folks

- ActBlue raised $99000 in its first from June-August 2004

- Lansing said that Hillary Clinton and Obama didn't use ActBlue, and that the DNC didn't use it until a few years ago

- ActBlue raised $246 million in the second quarter of 2019

- WinRed's goal was $20-25 million in its first quarter

- In its first quarter, WinRed had >639000 donors

- the Trump campaign and the RNC got $5 million in the 24 hours after the impeachment announcement by Pelosi

- the National Republican Congressional Committee announced a 608% increase in finding the day after Pelosi's announcement

Jlevi (talk) 01:27, 26 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

- From 2017-March 2020, RNC-affiliated businesses have billed the Trump campaign, the RNC, and other committees ~$75 million

- Brad Parscale's firm Parscale Strategy billed $35M to various entities since 2017 for advertising and digital strategy

- consolidation of voter data compteted with Koch-related groups

- WinRed raised $100 million in its first 6 months

- in 2019, ActBlue raised $1 billion

(unfinished) Jlevi (talk) 01:42, 26 March 2020 (UTC)Reply


- due to Trump allied control of fundraising, non-allied Republicans are finding it harder to run digital campaigns without support

Jlevi (talk) 01:29, 26 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

Jlevi (talk) 22:03, 31 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

- Patriot Pass is a donor platform

- Democrat campaigns raised $700M in 2018

- Party officials of the Republican Party wanted ways to oppose Democrats' small-dollar fundraising after 2018 midterm losses

- Patriot Pass is a merging of Revv and DataTrust

- Gerrit Lansing founded Revv

- Lansing worked as White House chief digital officer briefly

- the goal of Patriot Pass is to merge donor and political databases to better understand the electorate

- Mike Shields is a Data Trust senior advisor

- Mike Shields was previously a Republican National Committee chief of staff

- The winter meeting of the RNC was the site of the launch

Jlevi (talk) 21:53, 7 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

- no centralized platform existed for Republican small-dollar fundraising

- Patriot Pass (PP) was agreed upon following weeks of private deliberation

- Victory Pass was expected to close as part of the agreement

- PP was expected to launch in Feb 2019 (as of Jan 2019, article publication)

- people said that usage of PP wouldn't be forced upon candidates

- Anedot was not involved in the deal

- talk of an ActBlue competitor began within days of the 2018 midterm

- Heidi Heitkamp's fundraising was surprising for McConnell

- McConnell appointed Josh Holmes during a post-election party gathering to find a strategy to oppose ActBlue

- House Minority Leader McCarthy and Congressional Committee Chairman engaged in multiple discussions about an ActBlue counterweight

- Gerrit Lansing found in 2013 as GOP digital strategist that the GOP's services were too fragmented

- Kushner assigned Brad Parscale

Jlevi (talk) 21:03, 12 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Single source tag?

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Hi @Goodone121:! Thanks for your edits. I'm somewhat confused about the single-source tag you added to the article. There seems to be plenty of sources, each supporting different parts of this text. What do you hope will change about the article? What is the current problem? Thanks for your thoughts. Jlevi (talk) 13:00, 2 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Several sections are from only the first cited source. Bettering the Wiki (talk) 09:40, 3 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
On rereading, it seems only the "Reception" section is single sourced. I will move the tag there. Bettering the Wiki (talk) 09:45, 3 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for clarifying. And that should be relatively easy to address. Jlevi (talk) 16:18, 4 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Total fundraising

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I'm getting a little confused by total fundraising numbers. It seems like some sources contradict each other, but that might just be because they are marked in slightly different ways. I don't think WinRed publicly releases these details, so it might be worth summarizing below:

Time Amount Source
2019 4th quarter $70M [1]
First 6 months $100M [2]
Jul-Aug 2019 (its first quarter) $30M [3]
First quarter 2020 $130M [4]
April 2020 $60M [5]

Okay, now that makes sense. Maybe there are enough datapoints for a plot soon.

Jlevi (talk) 02:45, 19 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Latest information requested

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Latest update “3 years ago?” it’s an election year for Christ sake… Do an update to your information! 2600:1700:9835:7800:D102:CD43:A909:B681 (talk) 15:37, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Reply