Talk:WinAir Airlines

ISBN issues

There seems to be an issue with the ISBN of the book Deregulation Knockouts: Round Two. I know the search for it doesn't come up with anything. I have the book and that's the ISBN given in it. The book is published by Airways Magazine, so I wonder if that's part of the problem finding it. [1] -- Hawaiian717 20:03, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Addition by 71.219.128.132

71.219.128.132 today made a big addition to this article: [2]. Before I go in and cleanup the addition, I wanted to get a couple of people to look at it and determine if its something we can keep. For one, there are some claims in there that look like they'd need to be sourced, but aren't. They might even be hard or impossible to source. Second, while the editor was anonymous, he did sign at the end with the name Richard L. Winwood, whom as noted was the chairman of the airline. Assuming it really is him, could this lead to problems with WP:COI and possibly WP:OR if it hasn't been published elsewhere? -- Hawaiian717 04:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

• Given that there is no reference and it appears to be written by a person involved in the operation of the airline, it is OR and COI. So it probably needs to be deleted. Having said that, we need to check facts for the material in the article to see if we can get support for either what we had or what the corrects were listed as. We want an accurate article that meets WP:A. Vegaswikian 05:37, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• Finding information on a company this old can be tough, since many news sites like to bury their older stuff into pay-to-access archives. So far I've been able to find [3] which confirms a link to Morris Air executives. There is also [4] which discusses teaming up with the Long Beach Convention and Visitors Bureau and Universal studios, but I'm not sure that really confirms anything that was added. There is also [5] but that doesn't seem to add much I didn't already know. -- Hawaiian717 17:39, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• I also just found my copy of the September/October 1999 issue of Airliners, which contains an article on the airline. It will be helpful to help fill out the airline's history, but was written before the airline shut down and wasn't altered to reflect that. -- Hawaiian717 17:56, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• I've removed the addition, and added a bit more from the magazine article; a lot of it just doesn't seem all that encyclopedic though. One issue that may still be outstanding is Seattle, from what I can find it looks like the destination may have been briefly served. -- Hawaiian717 23:58, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
• I did work for the airline in marketing (OR and COI issue for you) so you'll have to find other sources to back up the information. But in the interest of helping you resolve 2 of the questions you have: WinAir Airlines did not serve Seattle. WinAir cancelled service before ever flying there. Also, Richard I Winwood was the Chairman of WinAir Airlines. Richard L Winwood might be Richard I Winwood's son who worked at the FBO - MillionAir in SLC where WinAir Airlines was also HQd. Let me know if you have any other questions. At least it might help you direct your research while you look for unbiased sources. TrajanB (talk) 05:41, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the clarification. I've gone ahead and removed SEA from the destinations list since clarification on this particular point is helpful. I haven't had time to do further research on the airline. Also, I double checked in the history, and it looks like I read it wrong; the addition was signed by Richard I. Winwood. I might have been thinking it was a lowercase L as they do tend to look similar. -- Hawaiian717 (talk) 16:58, 9 January 2008 (UTC)