Talk:White bear of Henry III
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- ... that in 1253 Henry III of England ordered that his white bear (sculpture pictured) be permitted to swim and hunt in the Thames?
- Source: "they also had to suffer the indignity of one of Henry’s off-hand sets of instructions when he decided that the bear should be capable of providing for itself. The sheriffs were told to create a stout muzzle and chain so that the animal’s Norwegian handler could control the bear when leading him out of the tower down to the River Thames. Also, a long rope to control the bear when he was in the water having a wash and fishing for himself." from: Bibby, Miriam. "King Henry III's Polar Bear". Historic UK. Retrieved 20 July 2024.; the date of Henry's order is given in Stow, John (1733). A Survey of the Cities of London and Westminster, Borough of Southwark, and Parts Adjacent. T. Read. pp. 69–70.
- ALT1: ... that in 1252 Henry III of England was gifted a white bear (sculpture pictured) by Haakon IV of Norway? Source: "Among the many marvels the visitor to London could experience in the 1250s was the “pale” or “white” bear presented to Henry III by King Haakon of Norway." from: Bibby, Miriam. "King Henry III's Polar Bear". Historic UK. Retrieved 20 July 2024. and "the lions were joined by a polar bear in 1252" from: "The Tower of London Menagerie". Historic Royal Palaces. Retrieved 20 July 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Valentin Houinato
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Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 861 past nominations.
Dumelow (talk) 12:32, 25 July 2024 (UTC).
- Hello Dumelow, I'm a first-time DYK reviewer and I'll be reviewing this. It looks interesting so far and I'll give additional comments soon. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 18:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Article was nominated 5 days after creation, so it passes the newness check.
- Article is exceeds 1,500 bytes, so it passes the minimum length check.
- Sources look reliable. I see that most of them were authored by people who specialize in history, which I presume are qualified and reputable enough for this subject. Earwig shows no obvious plagiarism.
- Background section: I see that ref [1] doesn't have an online link provided. I did a quick search on Google and found this PDF for that ref. I think it's worth adding that PDF's URL to ref [1]. Ref [2] covers most of the content in that section, although I think it should be put next to the second sentence since it doesn't mention anything about 1834.
- Hook only has one link, so the presentability rule does not apply here.
- Hook is adequately cited with sources used in the article.
- Both hooks are interesting. I personally prefer the main hook.
- Images are public domain and are recognizable at low resolution. Captions are descriptive and succinct.
- QPQ has been done by nom.
- There's a few grammatically unclear sentences I would like to point out. Namely:
- From then until 1834 animals were kept in the menageries continuously until 1834 - repetition of 1834.
- Henry was shocked by the expense of keeping the bear so [he] delegated its upkeep to... - add "he"?
- The sheriffs['] allowance of four sous a day - add a possessive apostrophe and wikilink "sous" for the layperson like me?
Other than some issues I've pointed out, the nomination is looking good! Since I'm a new reviewer, I'll have to request a second opinion from another reviewer. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 19:15, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi Nrco0e, thanks for the review and sorry for delay in getting back to you, I have been away. Good work finding that source online, I've added it and hopefully addressed your other points by improvements to the article - Dumelow (talk) 11:57, 4 August 2024 (UTC)