Talk:White Zimbabweans

Latest comment: 4 days ago by Katangais in topic White Zimbabweans

White Zimbabweans edit

The current name of the state does not change the fact that if the white population of the former country of Rhodesia identifies as Rhodesians, it's not wikipedias place to change that. Unless the majority of Rhodesians identify as Zimbabweans, the title should be Rhodesians Kepsalom (talk) 20:20, 11 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

It is what they are called by reliable secondary sources that matters. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 10:25, 10 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

This article is a complete mess it's so blindingly obvious that they should be called Rhodesians or white Rhodesians the historical name of the country and the focus of the article is on Rhodesians every link to this article is labelled Rhodesian it's a lazy change that just confuses and hides the history of these people. White Zimbabweans would by definition include non Rhodesian whites living in Zimbabwe. It's a politically motivated change that's confusing and makes it difficult to understand what the subject matter is actually referring to. 2A00:23EE:1300:6A3F:4958:4B22:7FC8:7C59 (talk) 12:42, 17 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/sspp/assets/icbh-witness/rhodesia2.pdf
https://rhodesians-worldwide.com/about-us/
Its not the Rhodesian Ridgeback Dog anymore its the "White Zimbabwean ridge back"
There are 164 sources attached to this article the majority of them use Rhodesian the only ones that use White Zimbabwean refer to whites that live in Zimbabwe right now at a minimum there should be 2 articles. one for White Zimbabweans and one for the historical and existing ethnic group known as Rhodesians.
I'm a Rhodesian; I'm definitely not a Zimbabwean, insisted Robin Ross, a farm machinery salesman.
https://www.nytimes.com/1982/01/15/world/to-white-exiles-there-ll-always-be-a-rhodesia.html
Rhodesians Reflect on the Elections of 1979 and 1980
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/17532523.2017.1357323 176.250.84.93 (talk) 12:57, 17 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
looking forward to the renaming of the Prussians article to White Germans. 176.250.84.93 (talk) 13:27, 17 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
No reliable sources have been provided to suggest the majority of white Zimbabweans currently self-identify as Rhodesians. This is an especially bold claim to make, considering that "Rhodesia" hasn't existed in over forty years. Outdated sources from the 1980s and the opinions of a few very elderly people who can remember the Rhodesian era well are not sufficient to support that claim. --Katangais (talk) 21:09, 4 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Total Population edit

Neither the 2023 number of 55,000 (which was 50,000 a week ago also) or the 2023 number in the historical population column have any sources, where does this number come from? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.218.10.149 (talk) 04:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Figures varying from 100,000 to 200,000 for the number of white Zimbabweans in the UK have been circulating on this article for a long time. Lately, figures varying from 30,000 to 55,000 have been circulated for the number of white Zimbabweans in Zimbabwe. This information is usually added with no sources, unreliable sources like blogs, or bogus sources that don't reflect these claims at all (particularly in the case of the UK figures). It's almost always original research or perhaps even deliberate misinformation to conflate the real numbers. --Katangais (talk) 21:04, 4 May 2024 (UTC)Reply