Talk:White Buffalo Calf Woman
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editHow much truth is there to the statement made by Crow Dog's grandfather that the part of the story about the warrior with lust in his heart who was consumed by the cloud was added to the story to please Christian missionaries? It's in Crow Dog's autobiography. I hesitate to add this to the article without asking first and getting some verification outside what he says his grandfather said. --Bluejay Young 20:06, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
I am not technically inclined so forgive me if this is incorrect. Why is this apart of the "mythologY" section of wiki and christianity is not? i believe in the "pipe" as do many of my friends and relatives. I will edit this page and make it right. this tells of one account. but truth be told there are many versions floating around. the old days you wouldnt be permitted to tell it unless some very old men were present.
this is a subject that should never be up to "wiki standards" as it is all an oral tradition. years were recorded in a sense. there are currently 19 pipe keepers. Arvol Lookinghorse is the current. it is any where from 600-1900 years ago. that pipe that woman brought is still in possessesion of the people in green grass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.208.186.92 (talk) 16:40, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
The Great Spirits call Crow Dog, Dancing Dog, he dances among the stars, where new life is born. This story, the warrior consumed by the cloud, speaks of the purification process that is coming. Yes, she has come home to embrace you, if you can receive her with the loving embrace of an innocent child. Mytholgy comes from Man, Man comes from Spirit, therefore Man's Spirit is our Mythology. We remember parts, and when we share with all our relations, we become whole again. His Holiness Arvol Looking Horse holds the sacred position of Chief of the Spirit of the Lake people, prestige honor in the west. The Sacred Pipe is to unify Mother Earth with Father Heaven. The people of the Green Grass, are the valleys of the darkness within the pure sacred pool of Great Spirit Mother, within us all, contained in the embrace of love. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whitebuffalocalfwoman (talk • contribs) 11:24, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Crazy Buffalo
editThe article mentions "Crazy Buffalo" but does not explain what that is. Tim Long 06:34, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
This account of White Buffalo Calf Woman is a bit exaggerated. Please google White Buffalo Calf woman to find a page about Avrol who is currently the keeper of the pipe. The link is here: http://www.kstrom.net/isk/arvol/buffpipe.html Maybe someone who is Lakota can write this article. I cannot, it's not my place to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trekhead (talk • contribs) 06:50, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Years?
editWhat are the years of all of these events? They would help to determine if they coincide with other events during that time.
- The Lakotah did not keep track of years; their spirituality is spacial (where do they fit into the world) and not chronological (when did this thing happen). They keep track of events, but not the year in which they happened. -WhiteButterflyWoman (talk) 18:25, 26 January 2008 (UTC)WhiteButterflyWoman
- According to the Battiste Good Winter count, White Buffalo Calf Woman came to the Dakotas around 901 CE, according to Greene and Thornton, The Year the Stars Fell, page 293. -Uyvsdi (talk) 20:24, 3 July 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi
version
editAnd the version she at the end becomes a female white bison?--Manfariel (talk) 14:37, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
names
editI am astonished the Spanish version is more complete about names: La mujer búfalo blanco (Lakota: Pte Ska Win / Pteskawin / Ptesanwi / Wohpe; Inglés: White Buffalo Calf Woman). --Manfariel (talk) 17:45, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
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editThere are major parts of the story that are missing in this article, and parts that are greatly different than what my Elder taught me e.g. the Lakhota had some of the seven ceremonies already, and it doesn't mention which virtues she taught (again, The People already had some, but not all, she made them whole). I guess my memory may be off but I don't think on so many things. My late wife and daughter were Mnikhowozu Lakhota and I was adopted by her family, but I'm not Lakhota and wouldn't feel right about changing something so important. I have lost touch the community and all my adopted family are now gone, but I sure hope maybe someone can ask an Elder or a Knowledge Keeper's help with updating this article. For something so important it would be better to have nothing than something so wholly insufficient, and I do not believe there is any prohibition on sharing this story with Settlers or anything like that (you can find the full story in enough books, that's for sure). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.165.188.30 (talk) 21:02, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
White buffalo dream
editI just took a nap while lightning 🌩️ thunderstorm passed and had the most vivid dream of a white buffalo here on my property which my dog Pumpkin was leading into my house! And in the dream I was calling my neighbor the Reverend across the street to ask him to help me get it out of the house. As I awoke I had my phone in my hand was on the phone with that neighbor hearing him answering Hello? Hello?
I now live in an area of Alabama known as the Black Belt, on a 500 acre plantation where my Great Grandfather opened this territory from the Creek Indians and was later killed by them. I was informed this was the Creek Indians favorite hunting grounds.
I wonder because of the many people here who've had unusual sightings and experiences, including me, if this White Buffalo vivid dream was significant for me to see and because of so many hundreds of Indians and slaves and rebels hurried here, was it the White Buffalo Woman visiting me since she is lead by a dog and mine is a rescue who was napping beside me. 72.173.46.58 (talk) 23:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC)