Talk:Whigfield

Singles, albums and compilations

What happened to all the single information, like tracklists, remixes and B sides? I know all the singles had links to them. There were some compilations on here too...where did they go? Why is Amazing & Beautiful not on the singles discography? It was released in Germany. Someone has tried to clean up the site but has deleted some important discography information. Also "C'est Cool" did not chart in Denmark at number 9. It was on a Danish website where people had to vote. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.192.71.2 (talk) 20:49, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Clean up!

Well, interesting read if you don't wanna learn anything! Can't someone clean it up!

???

Can you say CLUTTERED? And what happened to the page I made for "Another Day"?

Releases

Any possibility that someone wants to take on the task of cleaning up the Release section? --Threatis 21:13, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Imposter

Whigfield is not the singer in my opinion it's Annerley Gordon!

I have many tunes with Annerley Gordon on the vocals produced in Italy and the vocal is the same!!

I'd put money on it!

Just look at Black Box. They had Catherine Quinol as the lead singer - I saw her many times on TV performing Right On Time. However the vocals for most if not all Black Box tunes are sampled from Loleatta Holloway acapella's.

IMHO extremely unlikely, simply because AG is British, and the Scandinavian accent of "Whigfield" isn't exactly hard to miss. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.159.74.100 (talk) 16:30, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

I have to concur with this. The fact that there are no citations about Whigfield being the singer of her own songs screams that this is just a contentious piece of writing that doesn't deserve to be included. There have supposedly been several attempts by the producers of Whigfield over the years to cover up her being dubbed by another singer, including on the internet (most likely timed to coincide with the release of the greatest hits album)! So she "appeared" on the radio and sang her own songs - how do we know that wasn't Annerley who made the appearance?

Speaking personally, I've listened to plenty of Annerley Gordon tracks circa the year Saturday Night was recorded. The vocals on that hit are undoubtedly Annerley, when compared to other tracks she's recorded. The fact that Annerley was so heavily involved with Italo producers at that time makes it hard to ignore, when faced with the very weak alternative that the producers just happened to pick a girl who sounded exactly like her. DJ Mike TJG (talk) 15:47, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I would believe you if it wasn't for the fact that the singer who sings Saturday Night has a HUGE Scandinavian accent while Annerley Gordon is British. I doubt she would sing with an accent on purpose. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.10.46.8 (talk) 14:39, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

There is litteraly no proof for this save for the fact that Annalise soudns similar, how do we know that that wasn't Sanny. get the point? Also I made this argument on the Ann Lee talkpage, so i'm reiterating it here: Annerley Gordon is youtuber vipersword100's real name. How do I know this? listen to the voices. There you go, that's my proof. Oh you're crying bullshit? so why do you get to say that Whigfield is Annerley gordon and that there's proof while only saying that someone has video evidence of Annerley doing saturday night and also saying that the voices soudn allike which I'll give you that there are similarities. Howcome you guies get to say that Annerley is whigfield and yet I use the same reasoning you use and make the claim that I have proof of it when I say that vipersword100 the youtuber is Annerley Gordon for sure, and you guies call bullshit on it? Same logic, same amount of proof, both are obviously equally false. But why do you get to do it, and yet this Mancunian pilot can't? it's what I like to call hypocritical logic to the 3rd degree. So there you go. A little wisdom frmo this 31 year old Mancunian pilot who now lives in the middle of Canada. I'll let you digest it and come up with a reasonable response either here or to my comments on the Ann Lee talkpage.

Eric Ramus

199.195.166.103 (talk) 00:42, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

we do not care one whit who sounds like who. we follow the sources -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:04, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

"You fool!"(super villain saying) don't you see? That's exactly my point. There is no proof that whigfield is Annerley Gordon. I'm pointing out the stupid lojic that these people use and why it isn't valid. . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.195.166.103 (talk) 13:12, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E65g_0sh5-E Here's a link for a video of Annerley Gordon singing "Saturday Night" last year on a live performance in Spain. If this isn't proof that Annerley Gordon is the real singer of most of Whigfield's work, then I don't know what it is. As for the people claiming that the singer has a huge Scandanivian accent, guys, with all due respect but you must really check your ears because I clearly listen to a perfect British accent not only in "Saturday Night" but in pretty much all the songs in the project's first album and that's because I haven't heard the other albums but it's going to be same thing. Sannie only actually started to sing for the project in 2012 on the album "W" and even that one featured some vocals by Annerley. Since then, we can say the project pretty much ended because she decided to have her own career as "Sannie", so, whatever, if you still prefer to believe that Sannie is the real vocalist behind pretty much all Whigfield songs, fine by me, just keep in mind that you're being quite deluded by doing so.

João Teles, on February 15th 2021.

Name

Any idea why "Whigfield" ? -- Beardo (talk) 12:59, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I recall it being said on a radio program years ago that she chose the name after the name of one of her music teachers at school. Clearly I have no reference to support this though! SimonUK (talk) 10:38, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

fan

what else needs to be cleaned up here? i added some bio stuff... how about more/ different pictures, or information on performances? she as on top of the pops a few times —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.241.67.209 (talk) 19:32, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Picture !

Is that the best free picture out there??? link title

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Suki300me (talk • contribs) 07:33, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Clean Up

Hi everyone,

Just so you know I will be looking at the Whigfield on Wiki over the next few months. I understand it is in a bit of a state at the moment (not all my fault!). I have updated some of the Discography but would like to turn it into a discograpy page to make it more easy to follow.

Watch this space and PLEASE don't delete the page!

Many thanks,

Stephen

Stevieboy82 (talk) 21:32, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

"Charlotte not Sannie"...

We have been getting edits like this from editors claiming to be represent the subject of the article, and saying that she goes by "Charlotte not Sannie". I went and looked for any reliable source saying that, and found none. They all use Sannie. So we cannot make that change. Jytdog (talk)

In any instance, it should be "Carlson" and not "Sannie" or "Charlotte". -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:14, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

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Naan

Where is the source that naan is Sanny Carlson. I believe Naan's real name is somebody different, not to mention Naan's voice is only slightly similar to Carlson's voice. I know Sanny wrote a few songs for the Benassi Brothers but I can't find proof she's Naan, only that Naan sounds somewhat similar to Whigfield only different. Unless Sanny is also the voice of Yulia Savicheva, who's real name is Chasity Michaelsen. just wanted to bring it up. 23.151.192.180 (talk) 23:45, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Interfering with added info

I'm trying to add info regarding the fact that the real singer on Whigfields first 4 albums was Ann Lee aka Annerley Emma Gordon but this Harout72 is now all over and reverting my adds AND changing the original text on Ann Lee's page which is my source of info. Can he really do that?? Looks like he's on some crusade here...?? What's his agenda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nooway (talk • contribs) 23:20, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

@Nooway: Harout72's agenda is likely the same as most editors on Wikipedia: trying to ensure that information added to Wikipedia is cited to a reliable source. Linking to the unrelated Ann Lee page is not helpful. Linking to the Ann Lee (singer) page would be helpful if you also had a reliable source to back up your claim. I'm afraid Discogs is discounted as a reliable source. You need something better. Please see WP:WikiProject Albums/Sources for some ideas of what can be used. Once you do have a reliable source, you can cite it here and fix up the singer's page and the encyclopedia will be the better for it. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:59, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Vocals

When do we mention the songs were sung by Annerley? 174.255.1.248 (talk) 11:01, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Why it is claimed that Annerley Gordon did Whigfield's vocals

On this post, I am going to explain where these claims come from and why they are reliable and are included in the page.

The rumours started in the 90s, but they were confirmed in 2021, during an interview on YouTube channel MDT about dance singers, by Mauro Farina, a famous Italian record producer. When asked about Annerley Gordon (Ann Lee), he said, "Yes, yes, my dear friend Annerley Gordon, who also did Whigfield. She lent her voice for Whigfield, and it was a worldwide success."

Source: MAURO FARINA confirms that ANNERLEY GORDON is the voice behind WHIGFIELD and BANDIDO! ✅ (2021) (youtube.com)

There is a confession by Whigfield's label for almost 20 years, Off Limits, that posted on Facebook: "Annerley Gordon, better known as Ann Lee, is one of the most well-known dance characters in the 90s. She wrote together with Ivana Spagna "Try me Out" and "I Don't Wanna Be a Star" for Corona, and participated as a voice and author in numerous dance projects such as Whigfield, J.K., Charme and many others."

This is an official confirmation by the label that explicitly states that Annerley Gordon wrote songs for Corona and then specifies that she was both the voice and author in dance acts such as Whigfield.

Source: Off Limits - OMG! 20 years of "2 Times"!! #offlimitsproduction | Facebook

Sannie Carlson, the face of Whigfield, recorded songs years later, and the voice sounds completely different from the first four albums. It is somehow difficult to compare "Boys on Girls" with "Saturday Night", but if you hear Annerley Gordon singing "Saturday Night", considering that she is a studio singer that occasionally performs, the performance matches the perfectly recorded voice in "Saturday Night" and the accent as well, and that very voice is the same we hear in the other songs of Whigfield for years. Gordon and Carlson are of a similar age. Gordon sounds like Whigfield, while Carlson does not sound like Whigfield when she sings live, as we will see below.

Source: Annerley Gordon (Ann Lee) - Saturday Night (Live Superstars 90's concert, 2020) HQ (youtube.com)

As we mentioned, Carlson recorded songs years later, including some of Whigfield's hits, but her voice on the new recordings does not match the voice on the original recordings. Even her live ad lib does not match anything you hear on the original recording of the same song. This is very obvious in her performance of "Saturday Night" in 2024 in Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, Spain. The voice is deeper and lacks any kind of flourish, compared to the original recording. Even her falsetto sounds different. This performance is very important, because you can hear both the recorded voice and the live voice she adds on top of it, and both are unknown if you had only listen to the original recording. This performance sounds like a cover performed by a different singer. Notice also how the Whigfield's songs that Carlson sings live are the least vocally challenging. We have never heard Carlson singing more challenging songs like "Close to You" or the popular "Last Christmas".

Source: Whigfield - Saturday Night (Las Palmas de Gran Canaria - Gala Drag Queen 2024) (youtube.com)

In the following comparison, the voice of Sannie Carlson is extracted from her new recording of "Saturday Night" and it is compared to the voice of Annerley Gordon from her performance of the same song. The voice of Carlson is deeper and lacks the brightness of Whigfield's sound, while Gordon's voice is a perfect match.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYWjZ9v7i_s&ab_channel=becuaseofyou

Ally & Jo, a previous project from the same producers of Whigfield, features a voice that sounds like Whigfield, marketed with two different faces.

Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LUoo5cph7s&ab_channel=SteveWoodford

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYCO0-U4xtw&ab_channel=FLORENCOM

Accents can be changed, but comparing “Saturday Night” by Whigfield and “Heaven Is Here” by Favretto e Naan (also known as Carlson); in the first one, the singer uses the voiced /z/ sound where it should be (e.g. in crazy), whereas the singer of the second song sometimes uses the unvoiced /s/ sound where a /z/ should have been used (that applies to other tracks and e.g. this interview as well, even though she does occasionally use the /z/). Also note in this interview how she pronounces the word busy: with a Scandinavian y sound, as mentioned above, a feature that is missing from the recorded tracks. Danish (except some sønderjysk) has lost this pitch accent and developed the stød instead (roughly translates to push or strike and refers to glottal stops). Danes tend to include those glottal stops when speaking English. While Carlsson does not have a very heavy Danish English accent, she clearly has both traces of stød and Danish vowel pronunciations. Strangely, that does not apply to her hits.

Saturday Night Star Whigfield Is Back After 25 Years | Lorraine - YouTube

1990s Whigfield Interview | Kinolibrary (youtube.com)

Some people notice that the voice in "Another Day" sounds different, but if you pay attention to the pitch, you can hear that the voice is the same as the other songs but was speeded up.

Not just does Gordon sing Saturday Night live, but she has not denied that she did the vocals for Whigfield when asked. Remarkably, Gordon excluded Carlson from the credits of the 52 songs for Whigfield that Gordon has contributed to. The other dance acts she wrote material for have the lead singer credited, e.g., S. Chambers.

Source: Annerley Gordon - official website (annerleymusic.com)

On 26 July 1995, Norwegian newspaper Verdens Gang referred to a story in Danish newspaper Ekstra Bladet. According to the Verdens Gang, Ekstra Bladet claimed that Sannie Carlsson could not sing. Strangely enough, Carlson was lip syncing to Annerley’s cover versions of "All That She Wants" and "What is Love" at a concert in the early 90s. Whigfield had only released two songs at the time. Gordon, who co-wrote many of Whigfield's songs, has recently started to like comments that mention that she is Whigfield's vocalist on Facebook and Instagram. Fixfxx (talk) 17:20, 10 October 2024 (UTC)