Talk:What You Know Bout Love

GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 17:06, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Haven't reviewed an article of yours in a while after you did spend a good amount of time away from Wiki and I will happily take this one on now! --K. Peake 17:06, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• WP:OVERLINK of Pop Smoke under songwriters
• Target Tash to Tash (rapper) in the infobox
• Music video title should have correct capitalisation for the song's title

•  Not done --K. Peake 09:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• "Pop Smoke, from his debut studio album" → "Pop Smoke from his debut studio album,"
• "Bashar Jackson, Tashim Zene," → "Bashar Jackson, alongside Tashim Zene,"
• "Elgin Lumpkin and Troy Oliver." → "Elgin Lumpkin, and Troy Oliver."
• "The song's production was" → "Its production was"
• "It was released as the fifth single" → "The song was released as the fifth and final single" with the target, plus there should be a full-stop before this to end the previous sentence
• Remove wikilink on Ginuwine

•  Not done --K. Peake 09:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• The R&B track part should have "musically" removed and come before the sample info instead, plus change that to ""What You Know Bout" samples" with the target

•  Not done I meant merge these two parts as one sentence, plus remove the music journalists bit that you have added. --K. Peake 09:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• Still  Not done. --K. Peake 09:58, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• "it showcases Pop Smoke sing about how he woos" → "Lyrically, it showcases Pop Smoke singing about his passion for" since that is more encyclopaedic
• "It received positive reviews from critics," → "The song received generally positive reviews from music critics," with the target

• You have not added the target. --K. Peake 09:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• Still  Not done. --K. Peake 09:58, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• Why is it not mentioned in the lead that his lyrics were praised as well as his singing range?
• ""What You Know Bout Love" peaked at number 25" → "It peaked at number 25"
• "within the top five of five countries," → "within the top five of four other countries," to not only avoid repetition of info but repetitive wording
• The certifications sentence is missing a full-stop
• "of Pop Smoke and fans" → "of the rapper and his fans" to avoid stating his name too much

Background and composition

• "What You Know bout Love" fix capitalisation with the penultimate word
• "he was about it" → "he was about the song"
• Target sample to Sampling (music)
• Wikilink YouTube
• [1] should solely be at the end of the para since it is the only source
• "they thought that was" → "that they thought was"
• "always wanted it" → "always wanted the song"
• Wikilink Playboi Carti
• "saw a snippet of → "he saw a snippet of"
• "He admitted he didn't know where" → "He admitted to not having known where"
• Remove wikilink on YouTube
• "Bashar Jackson, Tashim Zene," → "Bashar Jackson, alongside Tashim Zene,"
• Target Elgin Lumpkin to Ginuwine
• Wikilink Troy Oliver
• "was handled by" → "were both handled by"
• Target Jess Jackson to Jess Jackson (record producer)

•  Not done --K. Peake 09:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• "and Sean Solymar." → "and Sean Solymar served as assistant engineers."
• Target programming to Programming (music)
• Mention what radio stations the song was released as a single to; is it UK mainstream radio here or a different format?

•  Not done --K. Peake 09:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

It was released worldwide. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 09:32, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• Remove wikilink on Ginuwine

•  Not done --K. Peake 09:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• "one of several tracks" → "standing as one of several tracks"
• "that the song was a "Poop" → "that the song is a "[p]oop"

•  Not done even though you have changed the quoting, it should still be "is" instead of "was". --K. Peake 09:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• Where does The Independent ref source that the lover is a female that he is detailing and trying to please?

• What's your response to this query?? --K. Peake 09:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• "They continue, saying" → "They continued, saying"
• "They state that" → "The staff stated that"

Critical reception

• Retitle to Reception because there are accolades at the end
• "the song shows that Pop Smoke" → "the song shows Pop Smoke"
• "into multiple genres"." → "into multiple genres."" for consistency
• "big to contain"." → "big to contain.""
• "along with the album tracks" → "along with fellow album tracks" to be more specific
• "even sometimes tender"." → "even sometimes tender.""
• "In their album review," → "In her album review," because "their" implies it is the publication's staff or any other group/person who the genre of is unknown
• Target chorus to Refrain
• "admission of weakness"." → "admission of weakness.""
• August Brown's review is included here twice; remove the second instance
• "give "Ginuwine's 2001" → "gives "Ginuwine's 2001"
• The last two reviews should be in the first para instead since the second should only be for the two accolades; this number is not enough for a sub-section
• "the song strayed Pop Smoke from his" → "the song strays from Pop Smoke's"
• Target drill to Drill music
• Target trap to Trap music
• "origins", and said it was" → "origins," and said it is"
• Why is the Uproxx review after the Slant Magazine one when it is more receptive?
• "placed the song at" → "placed "What You Know Bout Love" at"
• The 2020 best tracks of 2020 → The 20 Best Tracks Of 2020
• "saying it was a" → "calling it a"
• "and commented it was" → "as well as"

Commercial performance

• This should be after the music video section

 Not done, every song article always has the commercial section before the music video. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 08:50, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• Not necessarily, but this is not really offending anyone so you don't need to switch. --K. Peake 09:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• "It has further peaked at number 7" → "It further peaked at number seven" per MOS:NUM

• Remove over usage of "has". --K. Peake 09:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• Still  Not done. --K. Peake 09:58, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• "It rose to number nine" → "The song climbed to number nine"
• Cite Pop Smoke's chart history at the end of this sentence instead, as that verifies it being his third top 10 hit
• "later rose to number 4" → "later rose to number four" and you should cite the chart from the table by using a ref name here instead, to avoid repeated refs
• "The single peaked at number 16" → ""What You Know Bout Love" peaked at number 16"

• This was implemented properly, but why did you merge the two paras when the number of sentences did not change? --K. Peake 09:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• Still  Not done for splitting the paras back to what they were before. --K. Peake 09:58, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• "It was certified 2× platinum by" → "It was certified double platinum by"
• "peaked at number 6 and was certified a platinum certification by the" → "peaked at number six and received a platinum certification from"

• Remove "the" since Recorded Music NZ (RMNZ) does not have that at the start of their name like other certification organizations. --K. Peake 09:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• Still  Not done for the last point. --K. Peake 09:58, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• Top five info should come before top 10 since not only are the positions higher, but the top five mentions New Zealand's fellow Oceania country Australia

Music video

Background and synopsis

• Img looks good
• Wikilink music video
• "The music video opens with a video" → "The visual opens with a video"
• Remove excess spacing at the end of the sentence
• "The visual features" → "The video includes"
• Remove wikilink on TikTok

Critical reception

• Remove introduce to Revolt
• "described the songs music video as "bittersweet"." → "described the video as "bittersweet."" since the former is too wordy
• "comments that the video" → "commented that the visual"
• "but says it" → "but said it"
• "He continues, saying it" → "He continued, admitting that"

Personnel

• Retitle to Credits and personnel
• Wikilink and target all of the people where you can
• Change writer to songwriter

Charts

Weekly charts

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION

Year-end charts

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION

Certifications

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION
• Australia certification is not backed up by the URL; add an appropriate archive to fix this

References

• Copyvio score looks decent at 37.5%
• Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool
• Target Tidal to Tidal (service) on ref 2
• Wikilink AllMusic on ref 3
• Ref 4 should cite the original URL as well as the archive and change publisher to BBC Radio 1

The old link is dead now. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 08:50, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

You still need to add the original as well though; this is why archives exist. --K. Peake 09:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• Still  Not done. --K. Peake 09:58, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 12
• LA Times → Los Angeles Times on ref 13
• WP:OVERLINK of Los Angeles Times on ref 15
• Remove ref 21 since it violates WP:RSP and is useless since the source directly before backs up the song's debut on the Hot 100
• Wikilink Official Charts Company on ref 27
• Remove ref 30 per my earlier comment; it is basically a duplicate of the chart table's ref, to elaborate
• You can replace ref 33 with ref 34, as they are the same and the former is cited from a URL not a template so a ref name can be used to replace it anywhere
• WP:OVERLINK of Uproxx on ref 45
• Recording Industry Association (Singapore) → Recording Industry Association Singapore on ref 62, with the wikilink

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold for a week since I know you are somewhat busy with other ventures currently; I have noticed that your skills as an editor have approved by a considerable amount though! --K. Peake 08:03, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the review Kyle! All of your issues have been addressed. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 08:50, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

The Ultimate Boss You missed a few points, which I covered above but thank you for the quick response. --K. Peake 09:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Kyle Peake, done. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 09:32, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

The Ultimate Boss You need to implement all of the changes marked as not done... --K. Peake 09:37, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Kyle Peake, I did. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 09:41, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

The Ultimate Boss Not fully; I will point out above where changes still need to be made. --K. Peake 09:58, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Kyle Peake, I cannot find the regular link for the bbc source anywhere. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 17:07, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

The Ultimate Boss I fixed the reference for you and added its status as a dead URL, plus thank you for implementing the suggested changes even though I did some copy editing in the lead where my suggestions seem to have come across as confusing to you. ✓ Pass and I did remember to fix the target for music critics as well! --K. Peake 17:30, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Italian radio release date

There doesn't appear to be a good place to insert it at the moment but I would like to point out that the song was released to radio in Italy on October 30, 2020. https://radiodate.it/radio-date/pop-smoke-what-you-know-bout-love-221207-30-10-2020-radiodate/

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